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exported pdf displays the bleed of the previous page encroaching on the next page

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March 12, 2020
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Update: thanks for all the reply so far, my current plan is to send the pdf with an inner bleed of 0? (the book will be staple bound) I'm waiting to see if my printer accepts this, I must say I'm rather frustrated by how clueless the printer seemed, I'm sure the issue was on my end but with far more information than I provided in this post they came up with far less informative and helpful suggestions. I wish I'd gone to this community much sooner!

I have a InDesign document with images set to have 3mm bleeds all the way around. When exported as single pages as a print-ready pdf (as required by my printer mixam) some of the images show part of a page encroaching onto the next page. This could be happening in more than the pages I have identified it in as a lot of my pages all have white borders so it wouldn't be noticeable. This seems to only happen on page turn pages and not across double spreads but again it could just not be noticeable on certain spreads.

I've called the printer twice and exchanged way too many messages with them but haven't really gotten anywhere. As hopefully visible in one of the provided images, one page is bigger than the bleed, however, i cropped the blue content box to the bleed so surely that should not matter? Additionally, the other page that presents the same problem is not bigger than the bleed. Help!

Correct answer Dave Creamer of IDEAS

Yet another option would be to split your spread in InDesign.

Select the "problem" spreads and turn off the "Allow Document Pages to Shuffle" option under the Pages panel's menu.

Pull the right page slightly further right. Adjust the inside bleed as desired.

Dave Creamer of IDEAS

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Yet another option would be to split your spread in InDesign.

Select the "problem" spreads and turn off the "Allow Document Pages to Shuffle" option under the Pages panel's menu.

Pull the right page slightly further right. Adjust the inside bleed as desired.

David Creamer: Community Expert (ACI and ACE 1995-2023)

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alexledaAuthor

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thanks, ill try this, although I think I'm just going to remove the inner bleed for this project

rob day

Community Expert

Could you post a capture of the ID Pages panel with the document open?

rob day

Community Expert

Right, something’s wrong with the pagination—it looks like your page 1 might be starting on the left, but it needs to start on the right. Pages 24 and 26 would have to be left of the spine, but in your captures they seem to be to the right of the spine:

If you set Acrobat’s View>Page Display to 2 page Scrolling with Show Cover Page, it should look like this with even pages on the left and odd pages on the right:

Your InDesign pages panel should look like this:

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SJRiegel

Legend

The pages you are showing (the ones with with the Mixam logo) seem to have an inside bleed, but not an outside one. What do your PDF export bleed setting look like?

rob day

Community Expert

As Derek suggests the inside bleed gets removed during imposition for most binding methods—wire-o would be an exception. You can set the inside bleed to 0 either from Document Setup or in the Export dialog:

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alexledaAuthor

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I was thinking I'd probably just remove the inner bleed. However, I'm kinda scared to do as when I do I know they'll probably shoot me a message about it not being there, therefore when the file prints if its wrong it'll be my fault.

I've 2 phonecalls with the print company and they told me I'm either missing a bleed or need to rearrange the images so the one that's getting encroached on is above the one that's leaking onto its page.

rob day

Community Expert

How is the book being bound? If it is a common binding method like saddle stitch or perfect binding, the inside bleed will have to be removed in the imposition—the inside edge is folded not trimmed. If the printer wants the bleed include it, and let them deal with it in the imposition.

Derek Cross

Community Expert

Don't worry about the inner bleed, your printer will sort that out when s/he imposes the sections. Have you checked s/he wants Crop marks, sometimes they don't.

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alexledaAuthor

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They don't want crops marks so I exported the pdf without, the marks in the proof image are automatically applied by the print company's software. That's what I thought about the inner bleed! I sent it off to them for printing and one of the staff checked it and sent me a message saying it was an issue and would look like that when printed.

I know the issues on my end but I'm finding it really difficult to try and resolve it with the staff. The staff I talked to yesterday was really nice but didn't seem to really know what the problem was and was just guessing along with me.

Ddog9

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Is this printing company your only choice? I work at a printing company and your PDF would not be a problem for me. I use Preps to impose saddle stiched books and Preps would hide any bleed that is in the saddle. You need to shop around for a printer with better tools!

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