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Fill text frame with a non-printable color

Enthusiast ,
Apr 28, 2017 Apr 28, 2017

Hello, guys.

Is there a way to fill a text frame with a non-printable color?

Is there a way to create a non-printable swatch/color?

I need to highlight some modified text frames to the editor view them easily.

But I'm afraid someone forget to remove that color, you know?!

Thank you so much!

Hope you can help me with any ideas.

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Adobe Employee ,
Apr 29, 2017 Apr 29, 2017

Hi,

Did you check paragraph shading option in InDesign? It allows you to shade the text or the text in entire frame and that shading can be set to non printable.

Select the text you want the shading behind, and then enable the shading. Alt-click the below shown option to bring up the paragraph shading dialog box

You can then enable the below shown option to make the shading non-printable

You can then get something like

where the yellow color can be set to "Do not print or export"

-Aman

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Enthusiast ,
Apr 29, 2017 Apr 29, 2017

Yes. But (of course we all ever have a but)...

My client is using InDesign CS6.

Thank you.

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Community Expert ,
Apr 29, 2017 Apr 29, 2017

Create a new non-printing layer. Create an object style with a fill color of your choice (I'd recommend something very subtle) and a blend mode of multiply. Experiment to find what works best.

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Enthusiast ,
Apr 29, 2017 Apr 29, 2017

Thank you so much, Mr. Levine and Aman.

Both your suggestions are great. But don't fit my necessity.

I'll explain why:

The CC feature "paragraph shadow" is brilliant. And the option to do not print that shadow is even more brilliant.

But, my client is working on CS6. That doesn't have this feature.

Bob's suggestion is great too. But the layout will be changed and the filled frames must move together with original ones. So, I need to fill the original ones, but, of course, the colors used to fill those text frames can't be printed.

Now, I'm working on a JavaScript that will read the textFrames I need to fill with color, and then duplicate them to a non-printable layer and then remove that layer, or just fill them and then remove the fill color. I'll need to see in practice which option will fit my client's needs better. This script will just to highlight the frames and then disappear. If the user wants to highlight them again, just run the script again.

I'll let you know my final result.

Thank you so much again.

Regards from Brazil.

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Community Expert ,
Apr 29, 2017 Apr 29, 2017

You could use a spot color aliased to the text's print color. With Overprint turned off the spot color shows and with Overprint turned on you see the aliased, the actual print color. So here my highlight color is a spot aliased to process black:

Screen Shot 2017-04-29 at 5.17.19 PM.png

Overprint or Separation Preview turned on:

Screen Shot 2017-04-29 at 5.17.38 PM.png

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Enthusiast ,
Apr 29, 2017 Apr 29, 2017

Thanks, Rob.

I tried this. But I need to fill the entire frame, not only the text.

If I use a spot color aliased to any option, the entire frame will be

filled with the alias color.

Thank you so much!!!

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Community Expert ,
Apr 29, 2017 Apr 29, 2017

You could make a 2nd spot color set to 0|0|0|0 CMYK and alias to that. If you have objects below overprint or Multiply the highlight fill:

Screen Shot 2017-04-29 at 5.44.00 PM.png

Screen Shot 2017-04-29 at 5.44.23 PM.png

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Community Expert ,
Apr 29, 2017 Apr 29, 2017

Note that my White spot color is set to Process in Ink Manager

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Enthusiast ,
Apr 29, 2017 Apr 29, 2017

That's AWESOME!

I'll try right now!!!

Thank you again, Rob!

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Enthusiast ,
Apr 29, 2017 Apr 29, 2017

When this file is sent to preflight, it'll generate only the 4 CMYK plates?

Or the preflight operator will need to disable the spot plates?

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Enthusiast ,
Apr 29, 2017 Apr 29, 2017

I'd tested! The PDF only shows the CMYK plates! That's awesome. Absolutely

awesome.

Thank you so much. You helped me a lot!

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LEGEND ,
Apr 29, 2017 Apr 29, 2017

Hi,

When I read this:

"I need to highlight some modified text frames to the editor view them easily.

But I'm afraid someone forget to remove that color, you know?!"

… I'm very surprised you go in the way of "all-para" selections!

Not really easy to know what modification has been done in a para!

… And I'm very surprised nobody proposes the use of Conditions!

(^/) 

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Enthusiast ,
Apr 29, 2017 Apr 29, 2017

​​Hello, my friend.

I'll not read all paragraphs. I'll read modifications in pageItem itself.

It's a very very big editorial system.

In fact, I need to read a color that each pageItem has in another module

and replicate the color in InDesign, but withou the risk of printing the

color.

I'm not sure if it is clear...

On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 8:00 PM, Obi-wan Kenobi <forums_noreply@adobe.com>

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LEGEND ,
Apr 29, 2017 Apr 29, 2017

2nd point:

When I read this:

"My client is using InDesign CS6."

… I ask myself too: Does nobody know InDesign has a "Revisions control" feature!!

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(^/) 

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Enthusiast ,
Apr 29, 2017 Apr 29, 2017

That's definitely not the case.

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Community Expert ,
Apr 29, 2017 Apr 29, 2017

Tell the editor he should use InCopy instead and use the commenting tools.

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Enthusiast ,
Apr 30, 2017 Apr 30, 2017
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Done. That's what I need.

Show, sleep and hide. Without any risk of print the colors.

Thank you all for the answers.

I think I can't explain exactly what I need in the first post. Sorry about that.

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