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I am using InDesign CC. I have a page layout that has body text plus I add quotations in text boxes in a side bar area. Is there some way to get the footnote number inserted in the side bar text to appear, not in the side bar text box, but in the sequence of footnotes at the bottom of the body text box?
Hi Vinny,
The Jedi is back!
There's a way to do it but I'll only give the idea!
In fact, it's very simple if you think simply! … and, after having defined its main steps and tested them, it could be scripted! [but, personally, not for free!]
Without my script, it's manually doable because I'm not sure the op has such a lot of kinds of occurrences!
At the beginning, I suppose the sidebar text is always inserted in the main text flow (before cutting and placing it into an anchored text box on the s
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No, that's not within the feature set of InDesign.
But, you could run the footnotes as a separate threaded story (and possibly script it or find a plug-in to automate it) and then you'd have control over placement. Before InDesign supported footnotes (or was it PageMaker?), I used to have my authors add the superscript numbers to the text, and give me the notes in a separate file so that I could manually flow them from page to page. Keep in mind that this technique is very manual—you don't want to add or remove a footnote or you will have to renumber them all and you will need to be responsible for making sure that the notes are on the same page as their reference numbers.
Thinking out loud... you could use auto-numbing on the list of footnotes, and then add the footnote references to the text via an cross-reference these days. Then, at least, the numbers will update if you add or delete a note.
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???
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Thanks for screenshots!
When I'll see them, I'll tell you you could do it in 1 click!
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If anyone can, it will be you, Obi-Wan. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.
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LOL!
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This is a screen shot of the condition. I would like the footnote in the side bar to appear as footnote number 4 at the bottom of the body text and not show at all in the side bar text.
Thanks in advance!
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Hi Quiry: Let's see what Obi-Wan comes up with. I've already given you the options that I am aware of. Obi-wan Kenobi is a master of thinking outside the box and combines features in a way that increases the possibilities.
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Hi
this is tricky, I like that ^^
Since the Jedi hasn't showed up yet, here's a suggestion.
Definitely not fully automated, (and not a one click solution!!!) but it might do the trick...
Hope that helps
regards
Vinny
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Hi Vinny,
The Jedi is back!
There's a way to do it but I'll only give the idea!
In fact, it's very simple if you think simply! … and, after having defined its main steps and tested them, it could be scripted! [but, personally, not for free!]
Without my script, it's manually doable because I'm not sure the op has such a lot of kinds of occurrences!
At the beginning, I suppose the sidebar text is always inserted in the main text flow (before cutting and placing it into an anchored text box on the side).
Cut & Place can be kindly done by Javascript!
The only thing to really do is to "mark" the texts to be treated! For that, I use a condition [in orange in the video].
To have a more precise idea of what I mean, see: Sidebar - YouTube
In this video, the text is only "copied & placed".
So, after this first step and having played the script:
As you see, it's the final result!
How to do it? Manually, with explanations:
In fact, the true idea: keep the footnotes "5" & "6" markers always in the main text flow!! … but now they became [automatically] "invisible" using a grep style:
How this can be done? The script searches all text marked with the condition and especially finds text including footnote markers!
What it does is to create, in this particular case, a cross-reference as text-anchor just after the footnote marker based on the calculation of the "real footnote number"!! [This could be simple for this: document, stories, pages [as text frames].
After CR creation, the footnote markers are "moved" at the beginning of the text to be cut [another part of the script]! So, when the text is cut, it's "only the text with the CR"!
So now, there's a link! …
… but this link is not automatic!! if, e.g., the op adds a new footnote [new "2", in green].
The update is not automatic but the op just needs to launch the script again! Associating a keyboard shortcut to the script, just 1 click to update!
How? If the text-anchor name [the number] is not equal to the "real" footnote number [here, we previously had "5" & "6"; we have now "6" & "7", the script "updates" the text-anchor names! It modifies the "wrong" ones and globally updates the CR!
After having adding the new footnote "2", see the numbers in the side block: "5" & "6" (in blue), see the footnote numbers "6" & "7" (in red) and see the "warning yellow icons" in the "Cross-references" panel [in French: Références croisées] …
… After update:
Magic!
Even if the layout moves after, but if no new or deleted footnotes, it's just … done!!
As I said at the beginning, the only thing to do is to mark the text to be cut and moved! After that, just 1 click!
What else!? … just a cup of coffee!
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Hi there Obi-wan Kenobi!
Very interesting approach and thanks for creating the extension. I downloaded it just now but it's not working. I'm assuming it's not compatible with InDesign CC?
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Hi,
What extension?
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