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Help, setting up bleed for 8x10, in Indesign v.5

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January 21, 2024
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Hello,

I hope someone can help with this. I still use Indesign version 5, and I am wanting to set up my children's book for publishing, an 8x10 size. I attached a screenshot of it all. When I try to change the Bleed to recommended size (look for orange arrow) it tells me "value must be between 0-6 inches."

Please, if someone could please help me with how to fix this?

Paul

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Correct answer Derek Cross

If the illustrated picture I've used turns out to be about under 100 ppi, I just need to work on upscaling the original Drawing to be larger and sharper in it's quality, before converting it into PDF file into the Indesign??

Presumably you've checked the Effective PPI in InDesign and that's why you know the resolution is 100PPI?
If so, you can Upscale the image in Photoshop and afterwards apply a little sharpening. If you Place the image in InDesign a native PSD document you can round trip between InDesign and Photoshop. The text should be applied in InDesign.

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geminiplAuthor

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Hello, I've returned with some new trouble relating to this. Yes, I set 8x10, use it is 0.125 on all bleeds except the inside as you taught me. But when I save it all as a PDY, the page size keeps coming out as 8.71 x 10.83. I can screenshot what ever you'd want as reference, but what am I doing wrong for it save as that incorrect page size?

Brad @ Roaring Mouse

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You are getting two measurements confused. Your final trimmed page size is still 8" x 10", but when you add the extra bleed and room for crop marks, your final overall page size in the PDF is accordingly larger. In my example, with crop marks, my page size increases to 5.575" x 10.575" (rounded to 2 decimal places = 8.58" x 10.58") which Acrobat shows when you hover at the bottom left corner of the window . My trimmed page size is still 8" x 10".

Brad @ Roaring Mouse

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My settings in Indesign

Layout of bleeds, trims of page 4&5 in Indesign

When I'm saving as a PDF file for Adobe Acrobat

1. Still being puushed off by an inch.

2.Still coming out larger than 8.42 x 10.42, when it must be 8 x 10.

Please, what am I doing wrong, what am I clicking, or not clicking? What can I screenshot for you to see?

"Still coming out larger than 8.42 x 10.42, when it must be 8 x 10."

It still is 8" x 10". You are not reading everyone's explanations for the reason it says your page is larger. Your page will be trimmed by the printer to size indicated by the crop marks in your file. That area is STILL 8" x 10", but your PDF is larger to accommodate those crop marks... like so:

But as @Peter Spier mentions, you DO NOT normally want your crops marks to be offset at "0" (zero), as this brings them within the bleed area and could very likely show when your book is trimmed. Instead, set them away by an offset: InDesign's normal default is for an offset of 6 points, but I prefer to set this at 9 points (.125") so that they are fully outside the bleed area. Doing that will result in a PDF at 8.67" x 10.76". This exactly what you should be getting.

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geminiplAuthor

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Changed all bleeds to the 0.125 So if you look at my image reference, does this now mean I'd want to picture to stop right at the red line (bleed)?

Brad @ Roaring Mouse

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Yes. you got it.

Derek Cross

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You appear to be adding about 10 inches of bleed on one edge, change it to 1/8 inch – (unlink) it and apply 1/8 bleed to the top, bottom and to the outside. Your choice for margins.

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