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Toby from Shape
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May 8, 2019
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How do I create a PDF that has gradients in it that can be edited in Illustrator?

  • May 8, 2019
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When I do it currently, the part of the design that contains the gradients is a clear shape instead.

Also, just broadly is there a workflow for editing files between Illustrator and InDesign that keeps the files intact and doesn't have problems?

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June 26, 2020

Stevie said:

"My job consists of preparing PDF files for print and that means opening them in Illustrator to add overprint, trapping, etc. "

 

Hi Stevie,

but isn't that a task for special applications like pdfToolbox from Callas?

https://www.callassoftware.com/en/products/pdftoolbox

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

( ACP )

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June 28, 2020

We have Enfocus Pitstop for direct PDF editing as well as a few other tools but these are all very cumbersome and lack 90% of all features Illustrator offers. My job is checking artwork we receive, fixing it where needed and making alterations to the design. Using those tools makes my job take 5 times longer and 10 times as frustrating IF the tools even offer what I need them to (and often they don't).

 

At least half the time we only receive a PDF file - the previous printer usually doesn't want to send their open files but like I said, normally this is not a problem - the myth that Illustrator cannot reliably open PDF files is just that: a myth. EXCEPT when it comes to InDesign's gradients. Considering this is from the same company, it goes to show how apathic Adobe is to making their teams work nicely together.

 

The fact that InDesign & Illustrator, two programs that are closely tied together (in fact Illustrator received most of InDesign's unique features over the past ten years making InDesign even more obsolute for most users), can still differ so wildly in user interface, shortcuts, behaviour, approaches, etc. is beyond me. InDesign to me feels like a sluggish awkward beast. It's as if the designers refuse to move on from the old Zeitgeist of the days of Quark Express where the program HAD to be a pig to work with or it didn't feel professional enough.

Toby from Shape
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May 9, 2019
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Barb Binder
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May 9, 2019

Hi Tobesters :

How do I create a PDF that has gradients in it that can be edited in Illustrator?

Create the gradient in Illustrator. Export to PDF. Or, see workflow below.

Also, just broadly is there a workflow for editing files between Illustrator and InDesign that keeps the files intact and doesn't have problems?

Create your illustrations in Adobe illustrator. Save them as native .ai files. Add the illustrations to your InDesign layout using File > Place. This will create a link to the original files. If you see an issue with an .ai file, right click > Edit Original to open the file in Illustrator. Edit, save and close. When you return to InDesign, the file will be updated.

~Barb

Note: If Edit Original doesn't open Illustrator, you can use Edit With and pick your preferred version.

~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
Toby from Shape
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May 9, 2019

Hi Barb,
Not quite the solution I was after, so I'll just reiterate my issue.

I've saved a PDF from InDesign. I open it in Illustrator. When I look at the artwork, the part that contains gradients loads as empty, whilst the rest of the artwork is as you'd expect.

Attached shows the problem

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jane-e
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May 9, 2019

Tobesters  wrote

I've saved a PDF from InDesign. I open it in Illustrator. When I look at the artwork, the part that contains gradients loads as empty, whilst the rest of the artwork is as you'd expect.

Hi

Illustrator is not a PDF editor. The correct way to edit a gradient made from InDesign is to use InDesign and export a new PDF. Barb's answer is correct.