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How do I get Punjabi text to display properly?

Community Beginner ,
Oct 09, 2022 Oct 09, 2022

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Hey all; I'm migrating a book from English to Punjabi. (I don't read Punjabi or any Indic language) The translator provided me with a PDF and a word doc and I'm basically just to cut and paste it paragraph by paragraph but for some reason when I paste the text into InDesign it looks different.

Here's an example  - the bottom text is the PDF that the translator provided, the top is my InDesign doc. (Actually a brand new doc as I was worried the leftover styles from the English were maybe the issue); I've circled a few of the glyphs that look wrong/different but its peppered all through the text.

 

I've run the Indic Prefernces .js script, and set the default composer to "Adobe World-Ready paragraph Composer" in the Advanced Type Paragraphs. I'm using Arial Unicode MS font (Because that's what the translator suggested though I also tried Gurmukhi to no avail) and set the character to Punjabi (India) - I'm on Adobe's Creative Cloud and pulling my hair out.  Any Punjabi InDesign experts have any insights what I can do or what's going on? Cheers in advance.

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Community Expert ,
Oct 10, 2022 Oct 10, 2022

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Try Adobe Devanagari availble on Adobe Fonts

 

https://fonts.adobe.com/fonts/adobe-devanagari

 

 

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 11, 2022 Oct 11, 2022

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I did as well but nada.  inDesign just doesn't seem to work with Punjabi.  I need a solution for this client though.  

 

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Community Expert ,
Oct 11, 2022 Oct 11, 2022

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Yeh I did a bit of research but can't find too much on this. 

 

I'll find out more and hopefully someone can help you out. 

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Oct 12, 2022 Oct 12, 2022

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Update: I have also asked for someone from Adobe to help, but they have not responded yet. I'll keep asking!

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Nov 20, 2022 Nov 20, 2022

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DEVNAGRI IS NOT PUNJABI  - DEVNAGRI IS A SCRIPT FOR HINDI LANGUAGE, AND GURMUKHI IS THE RIGHT SCRIPT  FOR PUNJABI

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Nov 21, 2022 Nov 21, 2022

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No need to shout!

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Community Expert ,
Oct 18, 2022 Oct 18, 2022

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Hello again, @Pomodu. I received this message today from Adobe:

 

It seems like a copy paste issue. The MAX update ID 18.0 consists of Copy Paste Enhancements, plz ask the user to try again with the new version later today.

 

After the new release is installed, please come back to let us know if the new version solves your issue. If not, would it be possible for you to share a sample file showing the problem so we can better analyze this for you?

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Community Expert ,
Oct 18, 2022 Oct 18, 2022

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I have a real hard time letting this advice go uncommented-upon. This is not a clipboard issue. The only new clipboard features I see in the new product announcement are related to copying between Illustrator and InDesign - although maybe one of the other regulars who are paying closer attention to new features can correct me if I'm wrong. 

 

Also, updating to the latest release right before trying to do deliver a product to a client is, in my own humble opinion, a dangerous strategy. Maybe it's my decades of being a Mac user talking here, but I never install any software update the day it comes out, and I never try to put the x.0 release into production if I can possibly avoid it. Almost every single time, for every single app, there's going to be an x.0.1 release within a day or three that patches something nasty.

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Community Expert ,
Oct 18, 2022 Oct 18, 2022

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Understood, @Joel Cherney. I've asked the Adobe employee to come back to this post and further explain.

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Adobe Employee ,
Oct 18, 2022 Oct 18, 2022

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Hi @Joel Cherney,

 

Thank you for your valuable input. In addition to the points already discussed here, I'd like to add that in the latest version of InDesign, Copy-Paste workflow enhancement is not only between InDesign & Illustrator but other Adobe CC apps like Photoshop and Acrobat. For more information, please check this discussion

 

Regards

Rishabh

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Community Expert ,
Oct 18, 2022 Oct 18, 2022

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Complex script text like Punjabi won't render correctly if you haven't turned the World-Ready Composer on. The way I'd do it would be to place the translator's Word document, so I'd get all the Punjabi text all at once in one story. That may or may not work for you, I dunno. Then, I'd go to Type and select Apply World-Ready Composers. That applies the WRC to all of the text in your document.

 

You do say that you've turned the WRC on, but there are plenty of ways that you could have clicked on Type-Apply World-Ready Composers and have it not apply to your text. For example, that tool doesn't change your paragraph style settings. If you copy your Punjabi paragraph to the clipboard, then draw a new text frame, then the paragraph style applied won't have the WRC turned on (unless you edited the style yourself, manually).

 

Lastly: you can check to see if the WRC is on for a given paragraph yourself. Select all glyphs in a paragraph with the Text tool, then go to Type -> Justification (or whack Control-Alt-Shift-J, on Windows, the Mac shortcut is Option-Command-Shift-J) and look at the dropdown. I feel 99.44% certain that the sample paragraphs in your posted screenshots have the Composer set to Adobe Paragraph Composer; that's just what it looks like on Punjabi when the WRC is not turned on.

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Adobe Employee ,
Oct 18, 2022 Oct 18, 2022

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Hi @Pomodu ,

 

Sorry to hear about the trouble. Could you please share a few more details like:

 

  1. The version of InDesign & OS.
  2. The font details used on the original file?
  3. Is this happening on any other application as well?
  4. Will it be possible for you to share the word document for testing? If yes, you can DM me by clicking on my name.

 

Regards

Rishabh

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