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How do I make a partial border around a frame? (Screenshot)

Community Beginner ,
Feb 02, 2023 Feb 02, 2023

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Hello everyone.  I'm trying to have a 2pt border around my frame that is not complete, but partial (where I can erase segments).  Below you see I took the eraser and successfully erased parts of the frame border, however, Indesign interpreted this to me erasing the frame itself and my picture is angled off.  My goal is to simply erase part of the border and yet still have the image unaffected, only the border segment erased.  In my screenshot below, the border is perfect, exactly how I want it, but the image should be filled in.

Does anyone know how to do this?  Thanks so much.

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Feb 02, 2023 Feb 02, 2023

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InDesign does not have "deep" graphics tools that allow the fine control of, say, Illustrator.

 

One solution would be to create the border in Photoshop, as an integral part of the image.

 

Another would be to use lines to draw only the parts of the frame you want to be visible, then group it with the image frame.

 

Another would be to lay a frame UNDER the image, apply a centered or outside stroke, and then mask parts of it with white rectangles. (Or, "bend in" parts of the frame so they leave a corner where you want an end point to show.) When grouped, it would give the effect you're looking for.

 

But there's no truly simple way to do it with ID graphics tools.

 

ETA: And yeah, the pen and erase tools are to manage shapes of frames, not things like border lines.

 


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"Another would be to use lines to draw only the parts of the frame you want to be visible, then group it with the image frame."

 

You, friend, are very clever.  This is a route I'm going to take.  Thank you.

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Feb 03, 2023 Feb 03, 2023

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Hi @realm88 ,

just to explain what happens in your screenshot:

In effect this is open polygon path.

With that InDesign is always cropping the contents, your image, along the shortest straight line between the first and the last path point.

 

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Uwe Laubender
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Feb 03, 2023 Feb 03, 2023

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Have you tried the scissor tool?

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Feb 03, 2023 Feb 03, 2023

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Hi Frans,

the tool does not matter. If you create an open polygon it will be filled like that:

 

OpenPolygon-NotFilled-vs-Filled.PNG

 

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Feb 03, 2023 Feb 03, 2023

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Isn't that what the OP asked for? Maybe I misread.

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Feb 03, 2023 Feb 03, 2023

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No, they wanted the border to partially wrap around, but without cutting off the image itself. Can't be done without a second frame.

 


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Ah, right! Misunderstood, my bad 😉

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It's always the straight connection between the first and the last path point:

 

OpenPolygon-NotFilled-vs-Filled-2.PNG

 

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Just to illustrate what I meant about using a background frame and "bending" it to create the desired effect...

 

Here's a frame laid around the image and then manipulated to pull some segments in (opacity reduced to show position):

 

JamesGiffordNitroPress_1-1675445888758.png

 

And then the graphics frame pushed behind the image (full opacity):

 

JamesGiffordNitroPress_2-1675445952755.png

 

Very elaborate partial frames could be done with this technique, including using angles other than 90 degrees. The image and graphics frame should be grouped when done, of course.

 


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Hi @realm88:

 

Wouldn't the easiest solution be to add the stroke to the image in Photoshop, as per @James Gifford—NitroPress's very first suggestion, and then place that image into InDesign? Happy to provide more details on the workflow if this works for you.

 

~Barb

 

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That's probably "the" solution, overall, and probably what I'd use and recommend in a fully planned project, but there are times you want to keep the workflow all in ID.

 


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Am I the only one who increases/decreases an image size after importation?

 

(^/)  The Jedi

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Yes. I don't believe any InDesign user ever rescales an image after placement. 🙂 (Kidding!)

 

I'm not sure how that follows in this thread. A grouped artifact would easily scalable...

 


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