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How do i make a specificg heading style like this?

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Apr 05, 2018 Apr 05, 2018

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How do i make it so every heading has this arrow kind of shape without making a specific length shape for every heading?

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Guide , Apr 07, 2018 Apr 07, 2018

Colin,

The game seems to be "over"! …

I don't care about the expertise or the limited knowledge of designers who will read this thread, they deserve all my attention ...

If they already can find various answers, this last one from my own will let them once again just savor the total simplicity of a "click" ... accessible to all. Nothing more!

.idml file + Script [beta version]

After having played the Script, you could type text in the "red" frame and see its behavior!

This light version is locked on 1

...

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Apr 05, 2018 Apr 05, 2018

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Great question.

You can add a ruling line behind the text with right angle or rounded corners as a paragraph style:

Screenshot 2018-04-05 10.06.36.png
that will expand and contract with text edits:

Screenshot 2018-04-05 10.07.09.png

Or, you can get a variety of results with paragraph shading (InDesign CC only—not CS6 or earlier). These will also expand and contract with edits. (Just showing a few options—there are more corner choices.)

Screenshot 2018-04-05 10.11.36.png

But personally, I can't think of any way to get the look that you are asking for and also have the shape expand and contract with edits.

~Barb

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Apr 05, 2018 Apr 05, 2018

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Hi,

Or you can also create a small triangle first and then group it with a text frame. Set the text frame to "Auto-size" with the left edge fixed. Something like...

Screen Shot 2018-04-05 at 10.17.38 PM.png

You can then group the two(triangle and the text frame. When text is added or deleted, the right edge(next to the triangle) will not move because of the reference point as set in the "Auto-size" panel.

-Aman

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Apr 05, 2018 Apr 05, 2018

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Just For Fun! In this sample, just text, para style with shading/grep style and a simple regex …

to have this underlining effect everywhere!

Capture d’écran 2018-04-05 à 22.03.25.png

Best,

Michel, from FRIdNGE

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Apr 05, 2018 Apr 05, 2018

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No "Hello Jane"?

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Apr 05, 2018 Apr 05, 2018

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Capture d’écran 2018-04-05 à 23.47.33.png

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Apr 05, 2018 Apr 05, 2018

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Merci, Michel!

Is this a skewed rectangle?

And the "y" shows a descender issue?

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Michel, please be careful not to fall again in the habit of showing off what you can do without any further explanation at all. It is usually not helpful at all, and often only plain annoying.

If you are unclear if what you did is what an OP requires, you can of course show what kind of results you get, but do add how you do it. That prevents long question-and-answer follow-up threads – which can ultimately end with OP's "but your method will not work for me because reasons" (such as "it must be a style", "the text must remain editable", "this way the text won't be tagged in an ePub" and so on).

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Hi Theunis,

Writing "… just text, para style with shading/grep style and a simple regex …", I supposed everybody understood what I've done!

But apparently, I was wrong! …

But you won't appreciate this other way! "No shading, no Grep style, no glyph added …" 

Capture d’écran 2018-04-07 à 14.52.41.png

Here, the "red" effect will always follow the "text" you will type! … 1 line, 2 lines, 3 lines …

Best,

Michel, from FRIdNGE

[ Of course, I'll tell you how, but Colin seems to take pleasure to play! … So, let's play!  ]

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Very nice, Michel.

Found a different method for stand alone text frames that is not so flexible.
You have to edit the frame's path points if the height of the frame is changing:

TextBackgroundSlantedAtTheRight-13.1.0.76.png

Regards,
Uwe

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@Michel

I'm simply trying to answer a question posed by the opening poster - a user that had a newly created account, so I'm unaware of their expertise of Adobe InDesign, so I want to try and provide as much information as I can in order to answer their question.

So far I've given several answers that – I believe – fulfils the OP's brief of a one-line heading that has a solid rectangle behind it with a taper at the end of the line, and I've provided my workings so that anyone with a limited knowledge of InDesign can interpret what I've done and implement it into their own work and get on with their job of creating a layout with the desired effect.

If the answer wasn't in my post, perhaps it might be on my blog at colecandoo!

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Colin,

The game seems to be "over"! …

I don't care about the expertise or the limited knowledge of designers who will read this thread, they deserve all my attention ...

If they already can find various answers, this last one from my own will let them once again just savor the total simplicity of a "click" ... accessible to all. Nothing more!

.idml file + Script [beta version]

After having played the Script, you could type text in the "red" frame and see its behavior!

This light version is locked on 1 text-line [tangent calculation off].

Capture d’écran 2018-04-08 à 00.29.04.png

Dropbox - _FRIdNGE-0331_Title.zip

Best,

Michel, from FRIdNGE

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Apr 09, 2018 Apr 09, 2018

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https://forums.adobe.com/people/Michel+%5BFRIdNGE%5D  wrote

.idml file + Script [beta version]

After having played the Script, you could type text in the "red" frame and see its behavior!

This light version is locked on 1 text-line [tangent calculation off].

Best,

Michel, from FRIdNGE

Wow, cool script,

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I was able to achieve a SIMILAR (though not the same) effect as Michel:

Screen Shot 2018-04-06 at 10.01.30.png

So here are my workings:

Screen Shot 2018-04-06 at 09.58.30.pngScreen Shot 2018-04-06 at 09.58.34.pngScreen Shot 2018-04-06 at 09.58.37.pngScreen Shot 2018-04-06 at 09.58.53.png

However, the OP's angle in the image is shallower, this trick will only do 45 degrees or more.

If the answer wasn't in my post, perhaps it might be on my blog at colecandoo!

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https://forums.adobe.com/people/Colin+Flashman  wrote

I was able to achieve a SIMILAR (though not the same) effect as Michel:

...

However, the OP's angle in the image is shallower, this trick will only do 45 degrees or more.

Colin, what happens if you have a descender in the one-liner?

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@Jane-e

it's controlled by the paragraph shading, so I'd increase the offset of the bottom from 1mm to something larger (I'm in Australia so using metric measurements).

So far as Michel's technique, it's not a skewed rectangle, the preview he took the screengrab with would have shown a keyline around the magenta object if it was. He's partly revealed how he's done this in his own post, but it would have been awesome if he'd also provided his workings like I have so that beginners and intermediate readers of this post could understand how he created his technique.

Regardless, neither of our techniques fulfil the OP's brief, the angle is 45 degrees, but the OP's example was much shallower. I'll keep thinking about how to achieve the OP's desired result and post again if I think of an answer.

If the answer wasn't in my post, perhaps it might be on my blog at colecandoo!

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Hi Colin,

A totally workable and explained way in the day!

Best,

Michel, from FRIdNGE

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QLen  wrote

https://i.imgur.com/uURaIVH_d.jpg

How do i make it so every heading has this arrow kind of shape without making a specific length shape for every heading?

Hi,

what is your InDesign version?

Regards,
Uwe

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Guide ,
Apr 06, 2018 Apr 06, 2018

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Hi,

Capture d’écran 2018-04-06 à 14.48.09.png

The idea: Color rectangle anchoring!

Capture d’écran 2018-04-06 à 14.49.06.png

The user will just need to create the pattern based on 1 text line! …

… and then just 1 click!

A simple work for a script that would like to play Grep, count the lines and their length and make calculations of tangents!

Of course, the user could use an object style and spend hours to play with all the InDesign Effects panoply!

Best,

Michel, from FRIdNGE

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I woke up this morning and started thinking anchored text frame. I was going to play with it this morning, but it’s pretty much like this one, just without the script—just object styles and anchors, because...

Paragraph shading would be ideal, unless it’s important to look a certain way. An anchored text frame would have more control over the look.

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Another way to do this that not only fulfils the OP's brief BUT doesn't require scripting, object styles or anchors is to use the Indyfont script from Indiscripts and create the wedge bit at the end of the line. In my example, I've used the free version of the script that allows for one character to be made, and in this instance I've chosen the pipe symbol (|).

From here, make a solid background with paragraph rule above or below, or shading, doesn't really matter if it is one line. The trick is to have a GREP style that - in this case - finds the pipe symbol and the end of the line and applies the indyfont-script-created font as well as the shading color. Such a GREP style would be \|$

The only other nuisance is lining up the wedge.

Screen Shot 2018-04-07 at 00.10.43.png

If you didn't want to use the font, then just make a triangle as an object, copy it as an inline object to the end of the line. Drawback here is this has to be done for each line, and if the client says "make the effect bigger" this can be a pain if the object doesn't have an object style associated with it. Adjusting the character style in my method would be easier to fix in that instance.

If the answer wasn't in my post, perhaps it might be on my blog at colecandoo!

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Colin,

It's the way I've used in the first trick with the font Wingdings [for Jane, I've used 2 different glyphes of the font] …

Capture d’écran 2018-04-06 à 17.21.12.png

… Not really great … and really limited to 1 line!

I said: Just For Fun! 

Best,

Michel, from FRIdNGE

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No worries Michel, and thank you for showing your workings for your initial technique, it will definitely be appreciated by other readers of this post.

That said, both techniques match the OP's brief, and hopefully answers the OP's question.

If a similar angle is required for the start of the line, that can be done with bullets and numbering by applying the appropriate glyph and removing the tab space between the glyph and the type.

However, I can then swap the position of the bullet from the left hand side to the right hand side using this technique: https://indesignsecrets.com/numbering-paragraphs-side.php

And I can left align the text and the bullet stays where I want it to stay.

Screen Shot 2018-04-07 at 11.28.51.png

Unfortunately, I don't know how to put bullets on either side of the type... that would be cool.

Rather than show my workings, I'll provide them so it's easy to copy and paste into a new document. An IDML is available from this link: Dropbox - trythisout.idml

The last way that I can think of (and hardest to change if a client wants it changed throughout a document) would be to make a table one row by two columns, type in the left as desired, and in the right, make the cell a graphic frame. Then, with the pen tool, remove the bottom right point to make the graphic frame a triangle, and color it accordingly.

Screen Shot 2018-04-07 at 11.34.42.png

It also isn't responsive (i.e. won't resize as type is entered). Closest solution that employs this technique would be Aman's solution that was provided earlier.

If the answer wasn't in my post, perhaps it might be on my blog at colecandoo!

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https://forums.adobe.com/people/Colin+Flashman  wrote

…The last way that I can think of (and hardest to change if a client wants it changed throughout a document) would be to make a table one row by two columns, type in the left as desired, and in the right, make the cell a graphic frame. Then, with the pen tool, remove the bottom right point to make the graphic frame a triangle, and color it accordingly.

Screen Shot 2018-04-07 at 11.34.42.png

It also isn't responsive (i.e. won't resize as type is entered). Closest solution that employs this technique would be Aman's solution that was provided earlier.

Hi Colin,

also interesting is that one can remove a selected path point from an anchored object, but you are not able to move a selected single path point of an anchored object by mouse or trackpad. That goes for inline and above line anchored ones. One has to type values to the position entry fields.

Thank you for providing the sample IDML.

Regards,
Uwe

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Thats fun to do;)

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