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February 26, 2019
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How to overcome ICC profile warning & export an ID file to PDF

  • February 26, 2019
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Please help.  I've tried cleaning up doc, no errors present; I've tried saving a copy; i've tried saving, closing reopening indesign and exporting, still fails.  What is going on.  How can i even find what profiles are the issue?

 

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Beste Antwort von katherinef9735109

What finally worked for me was clicking Covert to Destination for colors under Output when Exporting, and then I got a pop up message the next time I tried to export telling me which page the offending image was on. It ended up being a background image that I'd placed as a pdf. Brought it back in as a jpeg and had no issues after that. 

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katherinef9735109
Inspiring
May 10, 2024

What finally worked for me was clicking Covert to Destination for colors under Output when Exporting, and then I got a pop up message the next time I tried to export telling me which page the offending image was on. It ended up being a background image that I'd placed as a pdf. Brought it back in as a jpeg and had no issues after that. 

Noel_M
Known Participant
May 10, 2024

@katherinef9735109thank you so much, I will try that!

reproo2773183
Inspiring
May 3, 2023

I've just run into this.

The fix I've found is to change the PDF Compatibility to v1.5 or above. I think this allows v4 ICC, but PDF v1.4 and below only allow v2 ICC.

Why do I care? well in my RIP the "Modified Display P3" is converting the white point badly wrong (12c 12m 0y 0k). If I move up to v4 and get "Display P3" in the PDF the RIP conversion is good.

reproo2773183
Inspiring
November 15, 2023

No Idea of the source but came across a "Modified sRGB" profile in a pdf the other day, this one my RIP handled ok.

Participant
January 8, 2023

Taking a clue from a previous post, I opened and Exported earlier drafts until I found one that did not produce the error. I removed the graphic that was added for the next draft and Exported. No error appeared. I went back to my current version, removed the offending graphic and opened the .jpg which was causing the problem in plain old MS Office Picture Manager. I made it full screen for best definition, snapshotted it using shift/windowsKey/S, dropped it into MS Paint and saved it as a new .jpg. Placed it back in my .INDD and Exported with no error. Problem solved.

Time Adobe adopted better software practice. I was always taught that software should "fail informatively" and fingerig the offending graphic(s) should be an easy thing for Adobe to put into InDesign.

 

rob day
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 8, 2023

Hi @johnd90755206 , If your problem was an embedded version 4 profile your cure certainly is worse than the disease. You should be able to do a Convert to Profile in Photoshop with the Destination set as a version 2 profile, e.g. AdobeRGB or sRGB. Version 4 profiles trigger a warning not an error.

Participant
January 8, 2023

Rob

I don't know what an "an embedded version 4 profile" is so I cannot answer your implied question and I have no facility with Photoshop. The difference in the Exported PDFs is barely detectable even at 400% zoom so I'm happy with my "low tech" solution. I suspect other simple InDesign users will find my solution useful,

John

Community Expert
May 24, 2022

Rob said: "The Display P3 profile also triggers the warning, but the question is should we care?"

 

Hi Rob,

I don't care at all. With all my tests, like you, I see no difference when PhotoShop converts an image with a Display P3 profile to CMYK compared to InDesign's export using the same destination profile. Or if Acrobat is showing the numbers in a PDF/X-3 file where the profile is named as "Modified Display P3".

 

Thanks,
Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Professional )

Community Expert
May 23, 2022

Hi together,

had also this case with an image that had the "Display P3" profile.

It was converted to version 2 when I exported e.g. with the default [PDF/X-3:2002] PDF export setting, because InDesign tries to maintain the RGB data of the image and has obviously some issues with the version 4 entry of the profile.

 

The message is no error.

 

It's just a reminder, that the profile was converted to version 2.

No damage is done, I think.

 

Acrobat Pro's Object Inspector in Output Preview of category Print Production is listing the applied profile as "Modified Display P3":

 

 

FWIW:

In a different workflow where all RGB data is converted to CMYK during the export process the version 4 profile is no issue at all, because InDesign does not try to write it to the exported PDF.

 

CLARIFICATION:

This is only true if the output intent is a version 2 profile like my ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) profile.

See Rob's reply below where a version 4 CMYK profile (e.g. Coated GRACol 2013) is used. Then the message comes up as well.

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Professional )

rob day
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 23, 2022

where all RGB data is converted to CMYK during the export process the version 4 profile is no issue at all,

 

Hi Uwe, I still see the warning in version 16.4 when exporting to PDF/X-1a (all CMYK) and the Assigned document CMYK profile and Output Intent are a version 4 CMYK profile (e.g. Coated GRACol 2013). It has no affect on the output Separation values they convert as expected on the Export, so I ignore the warning:

 

 

Community Expert
May 23, 2022

Interesting to see this, Rob!

The last time I tried this it was no issue and there was no message.

Tried again with a PDF/X-3 with Convert to Destination (Preserve Numbers) like that:

"CMYK-Arbeitsfarbraum" traslates to "CMYK Working Space" in option "Target" and option "Output Intent Profile Name".

 

Also tried this with a PDF/X-1a export preset like that. This time with "Target" Document-CMYK - ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI):

 

Well, in both cases I had no message that a ICC profile version 4 was converted to version 2.

 

Rob, I'll send you my files in a private message later…

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Professional )

Participant
April 29, 2022

Yo this was super helpful thanks homie

Participant
April 26, 2022

I found that this issue occurred when I placed files directly from a multipaginated PDF into the INDD file. So my solve was to export the desired pages as PNGs and place those instead, which worked. Not sure if this would happen with other placed files - like PSDs, etc. But PNGs / JPGs worked. 

Participant
January 11, 2022

Thank you AMELIA5EE7! That worked for me and it was a life-saver! 

serane
Known Participant
July 30, 2021

heres what did it for me (only solution that neither compromised colour not resolution):
in the export window go to output - color conversion: convert to destination - (IMPORTANT) destination: sRGB (etc)
since i want to keep the rgb profile (the pdf is only to be viewed on screens)

Participant
May 16, 2021

ERROR SOLVED. The color issue is from iPhone photos. When taking them into Photoshop and resaving them, in the last window when you save as psd, jpeg, etc. at the very bottom there's a check box that says "Embed Color Profile" and if it's checked "Display P3" it will generate that error in INDESIGN when exporting the pdf.

Participant
May 23, 2021

MsECD, Thank You. A god-send. How in the hell are we supposed to know all this stuff? How and why you know this stuff is mind baffeling... but I'm glad you do and were nice enough to share.