How to remove override in Styles

[Hosun]

Hi,

I have two questions.

[Question 1]

In Screenshot 1, there is + (override) to dropcap in Paragraph Styles. When it is applied to a paragraph, + disappears in Screenshot 2.

I think + is redundant in Screenshot 1. I have no idea about where it came from.

Is there any way to make it disappear from dropcap in Paragraph Styles?

[Question 2]

In Screenshot 3, there is + (override) to period in Character Styles. When it is applied to a character, + disappears in Screenshot 4.

I think + is redundant in Screenshot 3. I have no idea about where it came from.

Is there any way to make it disappear from period in Character Styles?

Hosun

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[James Gifford—NitroPress]

These look like aspects of styles; the way to change them is locate where they are defined and change the definition. If you want, for example, some paragraphs to have a drop cap and others not to have one, you will need two different (Paragraph) styles.

The oddity with the period looks like a GREP style. Look in that Paragraph Style, under GREP styles and Nested Styles, and see if a rule is implemented to see out and change any part of the paragraph. Either deleting those automatic-override styles, or creating a companion style without them, is the way to eliminate or control them.

[Joel Cherney · Accepted solution]

You can always mouse over a paragraph style to figure out what its overrides are. Here's an example where there is absolutely nothing on the page - all I've done is start a new document and create a paragraph style - and there are already paragraph-level overrides:

There are a few reasons why this might happen. In my case, I'm using the Arabic-with-English-interface version of InDesign. So its Basic Paragraph Style has right-to-left paragraph direction. However, on the rare occasions that I'm starting a file myself and not working on someone else's file, I want to start with left-to-right behavior in English, so I set up my own document defaults for English and LTR paragraph. So I can resolve that override just by changing my paragraph direction:

and the exact same thing happens when I alt-click the Basic Paragraph style to remove the override:

[Hosun]

Thank you very much for your reply.

I am solving [Question 1] first.

Can Apply "dropcap", Clear Overrides be an option to choose?

Hosun

[Joel Cherney]

If I were in your situation, I'd want to know exactly what override I was clearing. But if you've looked at the override and want to clear it, that's how you'd do it. 

[Hosun]

I tried 4 options in the pop-up menu. But there is still +.

So, I tried other way.

In Screenshot 5, I duplicated “dropcap copy” and applied it to a paragraph in Screenshot 6. “dropcap copy” has no + in Screenshot 7.

There is other paragraph I should apply “dropcap copy”.

Should I apply “dropcap copy” manually?

or

Is there any better way?

There are many paragraphs where I apply “dropcap copy” in my document.

Hosun

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[Joel Cherney]

What's your goal, here? 

Q) I want the little "plus" next to my style name to go away

A) Make sure nothing is selected on your page, then hold down Option and click on the style name. 

Q) No, I want to know why the plus is there in the first place

A) With nothing selected on the page, hover your mouse pointer over the style with the override. A tooltip will pop up, like it does in my first GIF. Post what you see in that tooltip, and we'll be able to explain it.

[Hosun]

I want to clear + to "dropcap". 

option+click gives the pop-up menu with 4 options in my first reply.

Here is the tooltip.

 

Hosun

[Joel Cherney]

If you have nothing on the page selected, then all the settings in that popup show a difference between your current UI settings and the dropcap style. You should be able to option-click on the style name (once again with nothing selected) and the override will be resolved, and your plus sign will vanish. 

[Hosun]

Option-click gives the pop-up menu with 4 options. + is still there.

I'd rather apply "dropcap copy". 

Thank you very much for your help. 

Hosun. 

[Joel Cherney]

Go for it!

I can see in your mouseover popup where it says "Option-click to clear." That's what an option-click is supposed to do, here; it's supposed to clear the overrides, not pop up a context menu. I don't know why you are getting a context menu instead. 

[Hosun]

There was another + to period in Character Styles. 

It disappeared, after I applied "dropcap copy" in Paragraph Styles.

Something is going on behind the scene. 

Hosun