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How to set out a Book Cover with Indesign, including spine and inside F&B pages

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Feb 28, 2018 Feb 28, 2018

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Hi,

I have been using an Indesign Book Cover template that includes the Front and back covers plus the Front and back inside covers. It is a 4 page template, with page 1 being front cover, page  2 inside front  page 3 inside back and page 4 the back cover.4

What I am needing help with is that I want to expand the template so that I can add a spine to the book cover.

All the guides and help videos I have seen show only a 3 page spread to do this with page 2 as the spine.

Can anyone show me a video tutorial of how I can set up a cover with a spine and also include pages for the front and back inside and outside pages.

Thank You

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Community Expert , Feb 28, 2018 Feb 28, 2018

Your printer can handle this for you or...

Starting here:

Screenshot 2018-02-28 07.10.17.png

Select page 1 and uncheck Allow Document Pages to Shuffle.

Screenshot 2018-02-28 07.10.34.png

Drag page 4 in front of page 1.

Screenshot 2018-02-28 07.11.03.png

Select the back cover page. Uncheck Allow Selected Spread to Shuffle from the panel menu, then click the Create New Page button.

Screenshot 2018-02-28 07.30.43.png

Result

Screenshot 2018-02-28 07.31.07.png

Using the Page tool in the tool box, hold Alt/Opt to resize the new page to the desired size for the spine.

Screenshot 2018-02-28 07.31.25.png

~Barb

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Feb 28, 2018 Feb 28, 2018

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Hi nermie ,

is it a facing pages document or a non-facing one?

I would do two spreads with 3 pages each in a facing pages document.

Result:

( from my German InDesign )

BookCoverWithSpine-1.png

Why a facing-pages document?
Because if you want to change the width of the spine you can do that easily with the Page Tool and the adjacent pages will automatically snap. Not so in non-facing pages documents.

To achieve that you would start with a new facing pages document with:

Number of pages: 6

Start page number should be an even page, let's say 2.

Important: Set margins to 0.

The pages on spread one are for back cover and spine.

The pages on spread two are for cover and cover page 2.

The pages on spread three are for spine and cover page 3.

Before doing anything else select all pages in the Pages Panel and set Allow Pages To Shuffle to false.

Use the menu that is behind the little triangle in upper right corner of the tab saying "Pages".

Now the page numbers in the Pages panel should read like that:

[ 2-3 ]

[ 4-5 ]

[ 6-7 ]


Next step is to change the width of the pages for the spine as you wish using the Pages Tool.

Here I set the pages for the spine to width: 30 mm. Page 3 and page 6 in this document.

BookCoverWithSpine-PageToolAtWork-Spine-2.png

Then you'll move pages around leaving two spreads in the document instead of three.

Important: Move and drag pages around in the Pages panel only. Do not try this with the Pages Tool.

Page 6 and 7 moved to right of page 5 in spread two.

Page 4 moved to the left of the spine of the same spread ( optional ).

MovingPagesAround-2.png

Page 3 moved to the right of page 2 in spread one:

MovingPagesAround-3.png

Regards,
Uwe

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Thank You,

also a perfectly correct answer and a clear solution to my issue.

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Your printer can handle this for you or...

Starting here:

Screenshot 2018-02-28 07.10.17.png

Select page 1 and uncheck Allow Document Pages to Shuffle.

Screenshot 2018-02-28 07.10.34.png

Drag page 4 in front of page 1.

Screenshot 2018-02-28 07.11.03.png

Select the back cover page. Uncheck Allow Selected Spread to Shuffle from the panel menu, then click the Create New Page button.

Screenshot 2018-02-28 07.30.43.png

Result

Screenshot 2018-02-28 07.31.07.png

Using the Page tool in the tool box, hold Alt/Opt to resize the new page to the desired size for the spine.

Screenshot 2018-02-28 07.31.25.png

~Barb

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Thank You.

Exactly what I was looking for.

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That's great news, nermie. Glad we could help.

~Barb

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Feb 24, 2024 Feb 24, 2024

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Used this to accomadate my design but you cant apply margins and have the cover in the same file? Every time i do it wont apply because obvioulsty the margins would be to big for the spine page. Am i correct in realizing i cant have them in the same file?

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Feb 25, 2024 Feb 25, 2024

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You should be able to set margins on the four content pages, and on the outer spine as well, on the Parent pages.

 

As these are layout-intensive pages, it doesn't seem like it would be too much trouble to manually position the text frames for the desired margins, as well.


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Feb 25, 2024 Feb 25, 2024

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Hi @Nathan Rule , You can Setup the document with 0 margins:

 

Screen Shot 26.png

 

Then select the cover and back cover in the Pages panel, and choose Layout>Margins and Columns to set their margins:

 

Screen Shot 27.png

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Feb 26, 2024 Feb 26, 2024

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wow in 15 years i didnt realize i could apply margins to individual pages. Thanks!

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