ICC Profile error

[Aiken Graphics]

Hi,

I keep getting this error from inDesign - Version 4 ICC Profiles were converted to version 2 ICC Profiles during PDF Export. Just wondering will this effect my PDF?

Any help would be much appreciated!

[scharfs]

I only swapped everything over to rgb cuz I was getting this issue. I'm far from a print production wiz to understand why this ICC 4 > 2 alert is even happening out of the blue. The issue may have been with the linked icons. Two were ai files that I went in and changed them to CMYK spaces, then I made 4 other icons that were png and recreated them in ai under the same colour space. Then just drew one out in InDesign and applied the swatches within. I still get the alert with "High Quality Print" but I turned overrprint preview on, and exported using pdf/x-4 as you suggested, and now there is no error and the colours are more in tune. So this is sort of resolved. I just want to know why I'm having to do this pdf/x-4 work-around now to avoid an alert that apparently doesn't affect anything. Why is it happening then?

[rob day]

I just want to know why I'm having to do this pdf/x-4 work-around now to avoid an alert that apparently doesn't affect anything. Why is it happening then?

Show a screen capture of the error.

The error would only happen if you exported to a CMYK destination where the destination profile is a version 4 profile—something like GRACol Coated 2013. A document has to have a CMYK profile, it's either assigned (Edit>Assign Profiles...), or if there's no profile assigned the Color Settings CMYK profile is used. What profile are you using?

But again, the color shift is unrelated to the profile alert—the error is a coincidence.

The [High Quality Print] preset is somewhat outdated and I would stop using it. It does not include color profiles for either CMYK or RGB native colors, so when you view the PDF in another application the color is randomly assigned a different profile and the appearance can shift. The PDF/X-4 preset solves the problem because all RGB color exports with the correct source color profile, and it includes your document's CMYK profile as the printing intent so the CMYK previews will match

[scharfs]

And thank you ever so much for your time on this. I really appreciate it

[Test Screen Name]

So far as I understand it the alert just means what it says. Most apps use the old ICC V2 profiles. Some apps make the new iCC V4 profiles. To keep things working, if you use a new V4 profile it has to be converted, and you get this WARNING (it's not an error). Possibly some colour accuracy is lost. Chances are the V4 profile came with a graphic you used.

[rob day]

Possibly some colour accuracy is lost

I'm not sure you have to worry about that, at least when you are exporting to a CMYK destination where the profile is version 4.

I've done some number checking comparing conversions done from RGB to GRACol 2013 (which is version 4) inside of Photoshop vs. on export from InDesign and haven't found any differences in the output values. If you were worried about it, you could make all CMYK conversions in Photoshop before placing and export to a PDF/X preset. In that case there would be no conversions during the export, but you would still get the alert because the profile is included as an Output Intent.

[Test Screen Name]

You prompted me to look up what is new in ICC V4.  There is talk of some colour conversions being “more consistent”, “higher quality” and “more accurate” at least potentially due to extra info in the profile. Pretty vague of course, and it will depend completely on the colour engine (CMM). High level intro on Why use ICC v4 profiles?

[Test Screen Name]

Oh, one more thing: I believe PDF 1.7 is the first to support ICC V4. So if you save down to an older PDF format, new V4 profiles must be converted. This is not a bug, or any kind of error, it’s what you ask for in making PDF Compatible with older software. I am at a loss as to why many people describe this message as an “error” when it isn’t. Is it because it doesn’t include “Warning”?

[scharfs]

I did misuse the word error and should have said alert. The word warning would help.. and a link to this thread or an info area on how to correct the issue would save people the confusion on how to prevent the warning from occurring. I had a colour issue built into my situation so I thought it was because of the alert as it was the first time I'd gotten it and my brand reds went off.

[jeffs51955710]

I tryed to ignore this message, but my proof color printer (OKI C11) always display "fatal error"and didn't print the job. So, I discovered that one font in my job was corrupted. I replaced that font and this message gone.

[lodestar.consulting]

I changed "Compatibility" from "Acrobat 5 (PDF 1.4)" to "Acrobat 8/9 (PDF 1.7)" and the warning went away for me. You do this by going to File -> Export first, change the compatibility and then choose that Adobe PDF Present when you Package.