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Imposition (if that's the right word) for an A-frame flip-calendar-style document

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May 12, 2021
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I have an 196-page InDesign document that will end up as a spiral-bound flip book. Its form factor is just like a standing desk calendar that goes January [flip through] June — rotate — July [flip though] December.

The document is in reading order: January through December. I need to turn out a PDF file in this order for the print vendor: January, December, February, November, March, October, April, September, May, Auguest, June, July. The pages will remain upright; they just need to be imposed in that order. The document has non-facing pages.

An InDesign plug-in that moves pages into that order would be amazing. But realistically, I'm hopeful for a script or process that will result in such a PDF file with the fewest clicks and key presses. Otherwise, the obvious solution (last resort) is to Export pages in order "1, 196, 2, 195, 3, 194, ...," a tedium I want to avoid.

Solutions anyone?

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Correct answer brian_p_dts

Some gaps in my logic. Try this.

var doc = app.activeDocument;
var pages = doc.pages.everyItem().getElements();
var numPages = pages.length / 2;
for (var i = 0; i < numPages; i++) {
    doc.recompose();
    doc.pages.lastItem().move(LocationOptions.AFTER, pages[i]);
}

miromontiAuthor

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Thanks again everyone for your input. I know you're looking out for my best interests, but the reality is that the project was ready to go at the time I posed my query. I just needed to know whether there's a way to do a thing so I can save myself some time. My client and I would have had a meaningful conversion about the printer if we were at "that end" of the project, but that wasn't the case here.

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Eugene Tyson

Community Expert

I feel your pain.

Best way to do it is to print out the pages as single pages.

Put them in the order required. Number with a pen.

In Acrobat move the pages into the correct position for printing.

I've had to do this before. It's a pain. It is the printers job. But we are way past that.

Make sure your client knows this is way beyond your remit. Give the printer your imposed mock up that you printed off and also have your client sign it.

I've done videos of the page order in printed sample that I made myself. If you can't physically get to the printer yourself.

Get sign off. Most important.

miromontiAuthor

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Thanks everyone for your interest. My client had already secured a vendor before contracting me. That vendor is a digital printer and imposition is not something they do. Page order needs to be set in the PDF file. I appreciate your concerns, but convincing my client to consider a better service is not in my scope. No worries though. I'm charging for the effort.

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Eugene Tyson

Community Expert

Ridiculous. You need to advise your client.

miromontiAuthor

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I understand where you're coming from, but don't direct me like that. The job is simple, and it's done. I've already advised my client for next time.

rob day

Community Expert

Otherwise, the obvious solution (last resort) is to Export pages in order "1, 196, 2, 195, 3, 194, ...," a tedium I want to avoid

Is the printer really asking you to impose, or are you making that assumption? It seems unlikely that a 196 page book would be imposed as 2-up printer spreads—is the press really that small? Wouldn’t the printer be running a larger sheet and need more complex signatures? Your manual imposition would get in the way of the imposition needed for a large press sheet:

Derek Cross

Community Expert

I wouldn't want to use a printer who expected me to do the imposition!

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Eugene Tyson

Community Expert

As others have said - you provide the pages 1 through to the finish in the reading order you want.

It's up to the printers to impose it - you do not do that at all.

If the print vendor insists, then insist that you should find a new print vendor.

Derek Cross

Community Expert

I suggest you discuss the job with the printer and binder. You would normally supply single page PDFs for the printer to impose.

Brad @ Roaring Mouse

Community Expert

As someone who has worked in prepress, we would just create an imposition template to re-order the pages as the project requires; we wouldn't make the designer do any of that. As long as we know what it should be, it can be done quite easily.

Are you being asked to do that by them or are you thinking it would be of assistance to them?

brian_p_dts

Community Expert

If there is no furniture (ie page number) from a master that needs to be copied over that might change, then something like this (use at your own risk--save before running):

var doc = app.activeDocument;
var pages = doc.pages.everyItem().getElements();
var numPages = pages.length;
for (var i = 0; i < numPages; i += 2) {
    doc.pages.lastItem().move(LocationOptions.AFTER, pages[i]);
}

miromontiAuthor

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Thanks @brian_p_dts. Sadly, the script is not quite right. The result went out-of-order as soon as page 3.

brian_p_dts

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Community Expert

Some gaps in my logic. Try this.

var doc = app.activeDocument;
var pages = doc.pages.everyItem().getElements();
var numPages = pages.length / 2;
for (var i = 0; i < numPages; i++) {
    doc.recompose();
    doc.pages.lastItem().move(LocationOptions.AFTER, pages[i]);
}

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