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InDesign 2018, MacOs 10.15 and new Macs

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My clients insist on using 2018 for various reasons and software compatibility with DAMs etc. I currently have a 2016 MacBook Pro, with a Catalina container and a Mojave container for dual booting.

 

Now here's the problem. If my Mac decides to give up the ghost, travel to the electronic graveyard, how can I continue to use InDesign 2018. Buying a new 2020 MacBook Pro means that Mac OS 10.15 is the default OS and that will not run InDesign 2018. Saving an INDD from 2020 to an IDML would be the answer, but it reflows and Master page items shift. 

 

Are there any suggestions? Could the InDesign programming team recompile so that InDesign 2018 is 64 bit happy? 

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Community Expert
September 22, 2021

Hi Simon,

I cannot see this on my Windows 10 machine where InDesign CC 2018 v.13.1.1.110 is still installed and running fine.

Let's see what other Mac users have to say…

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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Simon Lucas
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September 22, 2021

Thank-you Uwe. Weird that I cannot see my own post. Can anyone else still see it?

BobLevine
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Community Expert
September 22, 2021

I moved it to its own discussion since you hijacked an old post. These usually get lost because of that.

Here's the new link: InDesign 2018 and Catalina - Adobe Support Community - 12397328

Community Expert
November 2, 2020

Randy's suggestion has another benefit, I think:

Cloning the system with installed CC 2018 will always give you the bug fixed version 13.1.1.110 if that is already installed.

Any other installation process may get you 13.0.0. only.

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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Randy Hagan
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Community Expert
November 2, 2020

Looking from here at this vast dust cloud in the distance, I can't help but wonder if you considered my previous advice?

 

To recap briefly, if your client wants to stay with CC2018, bill 'em for picking up an identical backup machine to run it for them. Because if it's their unique requirement, it should be their unique expense to make that possible. Use disk cloning software and an external hard drive to clone your current CC2018 setup to the backup system. And, if you care to experiment, update your current production MacMini to run CC2020/2021 and your CC2018 configuration to support that unique client. Or not.

 

Then you can buy the MacBook Pro of your dreams and install the latest version of the software.

 

I think you're at the point where butting your head against a brick wall isn't going to work. And it certainly isn't worth your continued effort. Especially when just taking two steps to the left will get you painlessly around the wall instead of earning more lumps by banging your head against it.

 

Randy

BobLevine
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Community Expert
November 2, 2020
Agreed. Sometime you just have to fire a client.
Randy Hagan
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Community Expert
November 5, 2020

I don't know about firing them, necessarily. Though in ruthless terms, that certainly would be one fix for the issue.

 

But I do believe that if clients impress on you that they require exceptional conditions to work with them, it's on them to facilitate the resources required to meet those exceptional conditions.

Randy Hagan
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 15, 2020

If you're looking for a direct answer to the original question, I think I have one for you.

 

  1. If your requires the custom configuration, and requires you to maintain it for an indefinite amount of time, I feel they should contribute for the effort. You should see if they will help subsidize your efforts here.
  2. If you're worried about your 2016 MacBook Pro giving up the ghost (13-inch or 15-inch? Is that when you purchased it? Or is that your unique model? You want to be absolutely sure of the model version and part number before you continue), buy another one exactly like it. A quality refurbished one should fill the bill nicely, and even offer a short-term warranty to ensure the quality of the refurb. Apple, OWC Computing (macsales.com) and other sources offer quality refurbs at reasonable prices. If you're going to check out Apple's refurbished store today, you may want to wait until after Apple's big new product reveal — the site's down for coming updates/soon-to-be pre-update models.
  3. Update everything you want to update (web browsers, office applications, MacOS applications/utilities, etc.) on your current system. Then get a good disk cloning like SuperDuper! There's a freeware version, but the paid version offers you options for scheduling and other features that make it worth spending less than $30US. Install it on your system.
  4. Get a external USB 3.0 hard drive at least as big as the storage on your machine. Plug it in and use the cloning software to make a perfect, bootable copy of your system drive on the external drive.
  5. After it's done, shut down your system. Leaving the external drive plugged in, restart your current MacBook Pro holding down the Option key, open the Startup Manager and boot from the external drive. It will run much slower, of course, but it should otherwise run just like your current system.
  6. Now go to your new/refurbished identical 2016 MacBook Pro, plug in the hard drive and open it holding down the Option key. Boot from the external drive. Open SuperDuper! and use it to transfer the entire, bootable hard drive to your new system.
  7. Restart the new, cloned system normally. Dismount the external and run just like your old system. Done deal.

 

Be sure to run the cloned system periodically and update as appropriate, just as you do with your current working system. And periodically update the SuperDuper! cloned drive too to keep everything copacetic. The bonus now is that you can test your current system to install/run CC2020 as well and have the best of both worlds — or if it doesn't work out, go back to the last saved clone disk and revert with SuperDuper! All you'll lose is the time you spent experimenting with the upgrade.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Randy

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June 22, 2020

Ok, so a quirk of APFS, I managed to get InDesign 2018 running on Catalina. 

Participant
September 15, 2020

How did you manage to do this? I am having the same problem. halp! Been backreading too and downloaded the link for indd 2018, I  still can't install it. A prompter says I need to contact the developer of the app.

Legend
September 15, 2020

It is not supposed to work, so Adobe certainly can't and won't try to help you. If you need to run old versions you MUST keep old systems.

Community Expert
June 15, 2020

Hi iditthat,

seems that you have not installed the latest bug fix version of InDesign CC 2018.

See into this for details regarding version 13.1.1:

https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/release-note/indesign-cc-june-2019-13-1-1-release-notes.html

 

I hope you have access to version 13.1.1 from your CC Desktop App.

If not: I have no idea where one can get an installer for InDesign 13.1.1.

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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Community Expert
June 15, 2020

Hi iditthat,

what's your exact version of InDesign CC 2018 you have to use or you are currently using?

To find the exact version number, hold the Cmd key and then open "About InDesign".

As I already said, the installer for the base version 13.0.0.0 of InDesign CC 2018 can be downloaded from:

 

Adobe CC 2018 Direct Download Links: Creative Cloud 2018 Release

https://prodesigntools.com/adobe-cc-2018-direct-download-links.html

 

Also the Mac OS X dmg installer.

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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Known Participant
June 15, 2020

InDesign 13.0

Community Expert
June 15, 2020

Hi assause,

switching operating systems is no practical option as well.

If you buy a Windows 10 computer you cannot install InDesign CC 2018 from the Adobe Creative Cloud Desktop App.

It's not offered anymore. The one chance you have then is to download the InDesign CC 2018 installer from:

 

Adobe CC 2018 Direct Download Links: Creative Cloud 2018 Release

https://prodesigntools.com/adobe-cc-2018-direct-download-links.html

 

The issue with this approach: The installer will install the very first version of InDesign CC 2018: 13.0.0.0.

There is no bug fix version available for download. So you have no chance to install the latest bug fix version 13.1.1.110.

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

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assause
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 14, 2020

Software development can only guarantee operation in the environment at the time of announcement.
When the platform changes and the compatibility becomes incompatible, it is an external factor and the software cannot support it.
Adobe tries to resolve compatibility with new versions every year.

 

In this case, Apple has lost compatibility.
Therefore, when considering compatibility, there is no choice but to avoid using Apple's OS.

 

If you are using Creative Cloud for corporate version, you can get the old version from Admin Console.

However, the assumption of the operating OS does not change.

Known Participant
June 15, 2020

Adobe provides a 32-bit version of their software for Windows 10.

Adobe provides a 64-bit version of their software for Windows 10.

Adobe provides a 64-bit version of their software for MacOS. Adobe included 32-bit code in the 64-bit installer. 

 

Suggesting to avoid MacOS is a cop out. Designers like myself have invested £000s, $000s in Adobe software over the years, and we have invested £000s, $000s in hardware. Yet because we use Apple we are now treated as second class customers.

 

edit

I have to remain on 2018 due to additonal plugins for DAMs etc. 

BobLevine
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 15, 2020

New versions of InDesign on Windows are 64 bit only! I suggest that instead of ranking on Adobe, Apple or Microsoft you speak to the plugin developers.

Sheena Kaul
Legend
June 12, 2020

Hi there, 

 

I hope your issue has been resolved. But if the issue still persists, please let us know so that we can assist you.

 

If any of the above-mentioned solutions have worked for you, kindly mark the answer correct. 

 

Regards,

Sheena

Known Participant
June 15, 2020

Still on-going.