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Mike_Fernbank
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August 16, 2013
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InDesign text wraps around invisible images

  • August 16, 2013
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InDesign CS6. I was going crazy trying to figure out why my text kept jumping around. To my amazment, the text was trying to wrap around an image that was on a different layer that was turned off. The image was not being used and was invisible, but the text was acting like it was there. This is beyond absurd and even more ridiculous as it appears to be the default. Is there anyway to turn this "feature" off? Very perplexing company, this Adobe.

Thanks,

Mike

OS10.8

CS6

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      beccav13443741
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      December 6, 2019

      Like Mike I just spent a frustrating 45 minutes in a file figuring out that this text wrap "feature" had been wrapping around turned off layers. Even showing some kind of frame highlight around the hidden objects when you're trying to drag a text frame into place (and bumping into "invisible layers") would be helpful. I'm working in a complex file I didn't create so it's even more difficult. This was a bogus waste of my time. 

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        zuryd18536223
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        February 9, 2015

        Just going thru these pages... I know it's been a couple years, but I know what Mike is saying.

        Although I must say, all the suggestions are helpful, it did not work.

        I hope Mike found a solution. I ran to this situation as well.

        Just think of this: Make a NEW document. Is it empty? Yes. Then you copy a paragraph and insert this paragraph OUTSIDE the page and bring IN to the page. Voila! The invisible wrap around happens.

        My original though was the person who worked on this InDesign may have put in his setting (to write his books/newsletter, whatever) and now Mike must figure what the hell the last person did.

        Experienced user here and it still baffles me.

        Frustrating, yes.

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          LaubenderCommunity Expert
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          February 9, 2015

          Are the paragraphs forced to align with the baseline grid?

          Then look at this screenshot where a text frame is moved from the pasteboard inside a page (for that purpose I duplicated the one on the pasteboard).

          The blue guides are showing the document's baseline grid.

          So how can this happen? Text is 12pt. Leading is set to Automatic (14.4pt). At least a few lines of text should be visible inside the page…

          The answer is: We also have a baseline grid "inside" a text frame. And if this is defined with an incredible value, like 400pt, the screenshot above is showing no odd situation.

          What's next: That text frame's properties could be commanded by a Object Style. And if an applied object style of the source document (the one you copied the text frame from) and an object style of the target document share the same name, new formatting and properties will come into play for the pasted object.

          Of course, without seeing the real files, I cannot tell more about your case…

          Here the screenshot of the text frame options to create that ridiculous situation above:

          Sorry, all in German.

          But I think, you can figure out what is what…

          Uwe

          BobLevine
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          BobLevineCommunity Expert
          Community Expert
          August 16, 2013

          What's absurd is putting an object into a layout, adding a text wrap to it and then complaining that it works as designed.

          Go into the layer options for the layer its on. You should be able to figure it out from there.

          And then consider the possibility that people turn off layers so they can work on text without a distraction but still need the wrap applied.

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          Mike_FernbankAuthor
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          August 16, 2013

          Thanks for your attention, but please re-read my post, Bob. The text is wrapping around an image that is not visible, an image I'm not using on that page, an image that is on a different layer that is TURNED OFF. The text is wrapping around an empty space in the page. It is wrapping around nothing, nothing at all. The image that it is reacting to is not there. It is gone, gone, gone.

          Thanks,

          Mike

            BobLevine
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            BobLevineCommunity Expert
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            August 16, 2013

            I did read it and unless you actually deleted the image, everything is

            working as it's supposed to. If you did delete you may have left the

            frame which has the wrap applied.

            In any event, simply turning off a layer does not kill the text wrap

            unless you explicitly set that in the layer options.

            Turning off the visibility of something doesn't delete it.

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