Is there a way to change a paper size?

[OsakaWebbie]

I just discovered the hard way that the B-series of paper sizes in Japan (where I live) are different from ISO sizes of the same names. After weeks laying out a B5-sized art book, the printshop threw it back and said, "You ordered a B5 print job but handed us data sized as 176x250mm. Please resubmit a proper B5 (182x257mm) file." Ack! After a panicked time of fixing every page and hoping I didn't create some new problem, it's resubmitted, and now I want to avoid it happening in the future.

The Japanese version of InDesign defines B5 as 182x257. The English version (which is more comfortable for me as a native English speaker) defines it as 176x250. Same goes for all the other B-series sizes. Is there a way to edit the sizes in the English version?

[Laubender]

Hi,

you cannot edit the pre-defined page sizes.

They are "built-in" as far as I know.

With my German InDesign a B5 format is exactly that: 176 x 250 mm.

And that is exactly the format our German DIN is suggesting. Or ISO 216.

What you are seeing in your Japanese version is a different named format: JIS B5 that is 182 x 267 mm.

And this format is not available as predefined format in my German InDesign.

So I'd suggest you are doing a new document setup with 182 x 267 mm and name it JIS B5.

Scroll down to "Japanese B-series variant":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_size

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

( ACP )

[OsakaWebbie]

Yup, I know about that Wikipedia page - that's what helped me finally figure out why my software and my printshop were saying different things.

You mentioned a document setup (in English it appears to be called a "document preset") - is there a way to change or delete those? In the legacy New Document dialog, page size is a pulldown, and I assume that's what you say is built-in. But in the new New Document dialog, everything appears to be document presets. If I click on the "Print" tab, there are what look like presets that came with the software, but they are styled just like the ones in the Saved tab. I thought I could edit the B5 one or change its name to "ISO B5" so that I could create a new one named B5, but I don't see a way to do that.

I will never need to create any document for a European printshop - I will always be using JIS sizes. Just like Europeans would not bother to say "ISO" all the time (you just proved that - you wrote, "With my German InDesign a B5 format is exactly that: 176 x 250 mm."), Japanese don't say "JIS". What is technically JIS B5 is just called B5 here. There is no mention of JIS on their packages of paper or anywhere else.

[Laubender]

Hi,

I see no way to remove a built-in preset.

So the only option could be to create a new one with a different name.

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

( ACP )

[OsakaWebbie]

Okay, thanks. Not the answer I was hoping for, but at least I know.