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Issue rasterize vector, vector to raster,...

New Here ,
Nov 07, 2017 Nov 07, 2017

So i have an issue with vectors. Since i want to reduce the size of final pdf and there's no option rasterizing it while exporting it I was forced to ask for your help guys. So I have a indesign file with approximately 80 pages containing pictures and texts as well as some vector drawings, i.e. autocadexports as pdf. I'd like to rasterize these pdfs in order to achive smaller output but to keep some decent quality, when not high. I tried to export everything first as jpeg and then place thoes in new file, but result was lowquality and big size. I also tried to flatten pdf by adjusting the opacity of pdf on 99,9%, bud result is the bad quality of export as well as bad text. Do you have some tips or tricks for methe? Im on the edge of nerve breakdown. Tnx in advance

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Community Expert ,
Nov 08, 2017 Nov 08, 2017

Hi Kolya,

you could open the PDFs of your autocad exports with PhotoShop at your preferred ppi value.

Depending on the scale you are using them in your layout you could do them as 1200ppi effective ppi.

Regards,
Uwe

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Enthusiast ,
Nov 08, 2017 Nov 08, 2017

Hi Kolya,

to reduce the final size (and not rasterizing), try to open the pdf in Acrobat pro and save it optimizing, see here:

Optimizing PDFs

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Community Expert ,
Nov 08, 2017 Nov 08, 2017

Hm, I don't think that "optimizing" will do much on vector artwork.

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Uwe

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Enthusiast ,
Nov 08, 2017 Nov 08, 2017

However, it deletes all unnecessary data and items, reducing the size of the file

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New Here ,
Nov 08, 2017 Nov 08, 2017

Thank you guys. I'll try these suggestions of yours.

Uwe should I save thoes as save for web, and which format shuold I usealso? Png?

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Community Expert ,
Nov 08, 2017 Nov 08, 2017

You can force all vectors to rasterize by exporting a flattened PDF (PDF/X-1a or Acrobat 4 Compatibility). If there's a transparent object anywhere on the spread the Transparency Flattener preset determines how vectors are exported:

So you can set the Raster/Vector Balance to all Rasters and choose a line art resolution.

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Here I have a transparent rectangle on the page which will force the red circle to rasterize. The transparent object can be anywhere on the spread and doesn't have to touch the vector objects. Set the custom flattener preset in the Advanced tab

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You can see the red circle has been rasterized

Screen Shot 2017-11-08 at 8.02.03 AM.png

The same page to PDF/X-4

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Community Expert ,
Nov 08, 2017 Nov 08, 2017

KolyaZig  wrote

Thank you guys. I'll try these suggestions of yours.

Uwe should I save thoes as save for web, and which format shuold I usealso? Png?

Hi Kolya,

it's hard to give good advice without having the files at hand.

If the PDF is for offset printing I would go for JPEG CMYK maximum quality with 1200 effective ppi in your layout.

If it's for screen viewing you have to decide to what detail someone should see the graphic. Then it would be JPEG with sRGB to maybe 450 ppi or 600ppi effective…

Rob,

wouldn't your suggestion rasterize all the contents of the page?
I think, Kolya likes to rasterize only parts of the layout, the highly complex vector artwork of the autocad PDF exports, that he placed.

Regards,
Uwe

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Community Expert ,
Nov 08, 2017 Nov 08, 2017

wouldn't your suggestion rasterize all the contents of the page?

Yes, the all raster preset would do that, but I think you can limit the rasterizing to the vector drawings by applying transparency to the drawings and changing the raster balance. So in this case you might use a custom spread flattener, or change the balance for the document flattener?:

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Here I've added specific transparency by setting the drawing to Multiply, and changed the Raster/Vector Balance to 5, which will protect the text outside of the drawing

Screen Shot 2017-11-08 at 8.51.19 AM.png

The PDF with the drawing at 300ppi and the text as vectors

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Community Expert ,
Nov 08, 2017 Nov 08, 2017
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If the PDF is for offset printing I would go for JPEG CMYK maximum quality with 1200 effective ppi in your layout.

I've been assuming this is for screen/web viewing. I don't think you would want to rasterize the drawings for press  unless they are so complex they are causing an output problem.

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