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tanyac280576
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March 23, 2023
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Issues with Font replacement in Indesign changing CMYK Value

  • March 23, 2023
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Hi I'm a graphic designer and just noticed a glitch with these font changes for 2023. When I open an older file with fonts that now need to be replaced, the colour palette changes.

C: 99/0/3/0

M: 0/95/0/0

Y: 0/0/89/0

I've only just realised this scenario as a client noticed a change colour in print of business cards.
I didn't check CMYK as this shouldn't have changed and they only made copy changes, nightmare scenario for a printery!

Anyone had this happen??

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    Mike Witherell
    Mike Witherell
    Community Expert
    March 23, 2023

    Just wondering if the text is being controlled by a paragraph style? And is that paragraph style made to be independent and steady by setting its Based On to "No Paragraph Style"? The paragraph style would, in turn, call to the same Swatch, and therefore not change.

    Mike Witherell
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    tanyac280576Author
    New Participant
    March 23, 2023

    No paragraph style attached.

    rob day
    rob day
    Community Expert
    March 23, 2023

    Hi @tanyac280576 , I agree with James, a font change would not affect the document Swatch colors. It looks more like a Color Mangement problem—the Swatch colors would change anytime the document is opened by you, your client, or the printer, when the current Color Settings’ CMYK Color Management Policy is set to Convert to Working Space

     

     

    Are you providing the printer a Packaged InDesign file or a press ready PDF?

     

     

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    tanyac280576Author
    New Participant
    March 23, 2023

    Totally agree, what would fonts have to do with changing colours, but this is happening before I have opened the document. Why would the C99, M95 etc. I have checked printer seeings but nothing has changed from old Indesign mac to new Indesign mac.

    rob day
    rob day
    Community Expert
    March 23, 2023

    but this is happening before I have opened the document.

     

    I can replicate your problem by setting the Color Settings CMYK Color Management Policy to Convert to Working Space and creating a new document saved with that policy. This Document has a Swatch named C=100 M=100 Y=0 K=0 with the default US Web Coated SWOP CMYK profile assigned:

     

     

    If I close the document and set ColorSettings to CM Policy to Convert to Working Space with a confilcting CMYK Working Space:

     

     

    Then reopen the document the native Swatches and Colors get converted to C=98 M=90 Y=0 K=0—the conversion numbers would vary depending on the source and destination profiles:

     

    James Gifford—NitroPress
    James Gifford—NitroPress
    Brainiac
    March 23, 2023

    I can't think of any connection between font and colors, unless the file is corrupted.

     

    What is your workflow from InDesign to the printer? Through a PDF, I would assume? Did you use the same PDF export settings (hopefully one of the print standards), or did you export using different settings?

     

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    tanyac280576Author
    New Participant
    March 23, 2023

    PDF. I checked on my old mac with old indesign and original colour was there... but on new mac with updated Indesign asking for fonts CMYK changed, example below:

    John T Smith
    John T Smith
    Community Expert
    March 23, 2023

    Program name is in message title

    You need to ask program questions in the forum for the program you are using
    To ask in the forum for your program please start at https://community.adobe.com/
    Moving from Using the Community (which is about the forums) to the correct forum

    Peru Bob
    Peru Bob
    Community Expert
    March 23, 2023

    This is the Using the Community forum (which is the forum for issues using the forums).

    Please tell us what Adobe application you are using so that this can be moved to the proper forum for help.

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