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October 12, 2022
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Leading Not Working Properly

  • October 12, 2022
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What I am trying to do is very, very simple, which makes this all the more vexing.

I simply want to make a text box containing the numbers "2023". I want to drop the "23" down a single line, so that it appears directly beneath the "20" without having to create a completely new text box. Normally, I would just place my cursor between the 20 and the 23, hit enter once, center justify everything and be done with it. This is how it works in Photoshop, Illustrator, and literally every other program with a text editor I have ever used in my entire life. For some reason though, it appears to work entirely differently in InDesign.

When I try to do this in InDesign, and I hit enter once to drop the "23" down one line, the 23 just disappears out of view, and I get the little red "+" icon noting that the rest of the text has gone outside the bounds of the text box. This shouldn't be happening though, it's quite a large text box with only 4 numbers typed in it and no crazy leading values applied. Changing the leading value actually does absolutely nothing, I can set the leading down to the bare minumum of 6 and it still will not bring the "23" back into the bounds of the text box. I looked up the issue and have tried every fix I could find--  I can confirm it is not set to align to the baseline grid, and I do have the option checked to apply leading to the entire paragraph. 

Any help would be immensely appreciated.

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Correct answer jmlevy

Normally, I would just place my cursor between the 20 and the 23, hit enter once,

Do you hit the “enter” key or the "return” key? The “enter” key, on a numeric keypad (at least on a Mac) creates a column jump, not a paragraph return. If yout text frame has only one column, it will create overset.

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jmlevy
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jmlevyCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
October 12, 2022

Normally, I would just place my cursor between the 20 and the 23, hit enter once,

Do you hit the “enter” key or the "return” key? The “enter” key, on a numeric keypad (at least on a Mac) creates a column jump, not a paragraph return. If yout text frame has only one column, it will create overset.

Participant
October 12, 2022

This was it, thank you! I should have known this. I used the numpad to type out "2023" and hit "return" instead of "enter" just out of habit from typing on the numpad. Silly me. I knew it had to be a stupid mistake on my part, just couldn't figure out where I went wrong!

Appreciate all the helpful suggestions from everyone, cheers!

rob day
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Community Expert
October 12, 2022

Hi @JasperFoster , You can remove the default Enter behavior via Keyboard Shortcuts...>Type Menu>Insert Break Character:Column Break>Remove>Save

 

Willi Adelberger
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Community Expert
October 12, 2022

What are the keep option?

Legend
October 12, 2022

Two other things to check -- is there are paragraph setting to Start Paragraph in Next Frame or a large Space Before or Space After paragraph setting?

James Gifford—NitroPress
Legend
October 12, 2022

The text is larger than the text box. You need to reduce all spacing so that the text will fit. (You're probably not searching using exactly the right fussy terms. 🙂 )

 

Do this:

  1. Create your text box.
  2. Type 20 (paragraph return) 23 (paragraph end).
  3. Reduce the line spacing to (probably) about 80-90% of the text size.
  4. Make sure the text has no added spacing on any side.
  5. Make sure the text box has no inside spacing offset (Ctrl-B to bring up the dialog).

 

I'd use centered text, or full-justify with careful tweaking of the box inside spacing, to get the numbers exactly where you want them.

 

It is much easier to make the box bigger, set this all up, then reduce the box to your desired end size and tweak from there.

 

Participant
October 12, 2022

Hello,

I appreciate your quick response, but I don't think the text is larger than the text box in this scenario (please see the photo I attached). There is no inset spacing. Text size is 12 pt, leading is set to 14.4 pt (though as mentioned, I have set leading to the bare minumum of 6 pt and it makes no difference), full-justify. I can drag the text box so large that it is bigger than the whole spread itself, and I still cannot see the 2nd line. 

James Gifford—NitroPress
Legend
October 12, 2022

Those were the basics. I think the other replies have nailed that it's a keep option — you are forcing the '23' to the next page/column/frame.