Missing dots at the end of pharagraph when exporting a PDF from Indesign

[Hazar Marji]

Hello, I hope someone can help.

I'm exporting a file as a pdf from InDesign. However, a strange thing happens. When I export the file as PDF, Strangely, the dots disappear when I make the text right-justify, but when it is no-justify, the dots appear normally.  

right justifying 

no justification 

What is the problem? Please help.

[Eugene Tyson]

Have you set the language for the Paragraph to your language, like Arabic or whatever language this is?
Have you used World Ready Paragraph Composer?
Are you using the ME version of InDesign?

Can you share more info on this?

I've limited experience with setting Right to Left languages, but hopefully can help a little.

[Peter Spier]

I don't read Arabic and have no experience setting right-to-left text, but I do see, in addition tot he missing dot, some differences in a few of the word forms as well and wondered if this was also unexpected...

[hanimuhammed]

Unfortunately this issue is related to some Arabic and Persian characters such as T. For me I didn't find a technical sollution but you can add some scale even 1% to the text and the issue will be solved.

[Joel Cherney]

Can you go into a little bit more detail about your workaround? 

If I export fully justified Arabic or Persian text from InDesign 18.5 (the 2023 edition) then everything looks fine to my eyes. If I export fully justified Arabic or Persian text from 19.0.1, then the last full stop disappears from any multi-line paragraph. I've tried adding a few percent of horizontal scale, but the missing period does not reappear. How did you pull it off?

This is just one RTL complex-script text rendering errors in the newest version of InDesign, and I was about to file a bug report at uservoice.indesign.com about it. The only reason I haven't done so is that I got an error message when trying to upload a sample INDD, which I assume is a new bug with Uservoice itself. At any rate, if you can add some details on how you worked around this bug, I can include it in the bug report, which might help the devs find the bug (and will certainly help the frustrated users who are voting up that bug report, in that it might allow them to get back to work without rolling back to 18.5). 

[Zaid Al Hilali]

This issue is certainly a bug worth reporting. 

What you can do currently to avoid the problem is to open the "Paragraph" panel, and choose "None" from the Kashida setting drop-down menu as shown below. Then export to PDF.

Switching Kashida option off will certainly restrict you from controlling the word extension.

[Joel Cherney]

Well, that's certainly a workaround! I gave up trying to find a way to submit an INDD with my bug report, which I have now posted over at uservoice:

https://indesign.uservoice.com/forums/601180-adobe-indesign-bugs/suggestions/47515619-fully-justifie...

[Zaid Al Hilali]

I supported your bug report… I hope we get a fix soon.

[Zaid Al Hilali]

Although this other solution I'm suggesting here may be silly, it is worth mentioning, especially since you can keep Kashidas ON to extend words and close white gaps.

You can type double dots at the end of the paragraph for example…

For some reason, one of the dots will appear in the PDF later. You need to visit your InDesign document in future to Edit > Find/Change multiple double dots in your document after the bug is fixed.

[anna5E09]

That did not solve the issue for me. Hebrew text RTL. 

[anna5E09]

Thank you Zaid Al Hilali!
I replyied in the wrong place. 
The two dots silly but usesful solution - works!
The kashida solutoin - didn't work. 

[Msto Ismail]

السلام عليكم يمكنك حل المشكلة بإضافة تاب نهاية الجملة TAB

[Robert at ID-Tasker]

I don't have ME installed - how about just a space? 

[XymAblo]

Apparentty its a bug. My work around is to download an earlier version. (in my case downloaded v18.5.2) it works fine. But it it will take time to convert once u try to open from the older version.

[Rishabh_Tiwari]

Hi,

Sorry to hear about the trouble. Can you share the version of InDesign & OS along with a sample document so that we can investigate this further. 

Thanks

Rishabh

[Joel Cherney]

https://indesign.uservoice.com/forums/601180-adobe-indesign-bugs/suggestions/47515619-fully-justifie...

[Sunshine-Studio]

The easiest way to avoid this problem is to add a space after each full stop or colon. This is the quickest way

[MayaSmadi]

I've been have the same problem with my Arabic text. However, dding 2 spaces after the full-stop works! The tab suggestion by Msto Ismail didn't work for me though.

Bit tedious to add double spaces after each paragraph full-stop of a 250 page book but better than nothing until this bug issue is resolved.

Thanks!

[Robert at ID-Tasker]

@MayaSmadi

Have you added them already? It can be done with GREP automatically...

[MayaSmadi]

Not yet, I noticed not all full-stops were missing so I'm going through the pdf one by one to spot them.

I'll look into GREPs, haven't properly used it before, thanks for the suggestion!

[Robert at ID-Tasker]

@MayaSmadi

This should work - but I'm replying from my phone:

"\.$" -> "\.[space][space]"

Of course you have to replace each [space] with " " - and add as many as you like.

Or maybe order should be reversed for RTL languages?? 

[anna5E09]

This workaround works for Hebrew RTL Thank you!

[Laubender]

Hi @Hazar Marji ,

with my German InDesign I see no issue when I export with the standard Print to PDF export preset [PDF/X-4 :2008].

InDesign:

Acrobat Pro:

Well, so I need a sample InDesign document from you to do my own tests.

My InDesign document from version 19.5.0.84 and the exported PDF is attached.

Regards,
Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Expert )

[MayaSmadi]

I noticed in my file it has only occured on almost 10 paragraphs (out of approx. 100), it's really odd and I don't have an example to share as I've already fixed everything manually.

If I see a new one, I'll share it. I also use the latest indesign software.

[Abhishek Rao]

Hi everyone, 

Thank you for your patience. It looks like you're experiencing a similar issue mentioned in the UserVoice. Please continue to upvote the UserVoice page and add your feedback to help prioritize the issue. We will keep you posted if the product team needs any further details from you. Stay tuned to the UserVoice page for updates. 

Workaround: use ID 18.5 Eng Hebrew version. 

Hope it helps. 

Thank you,

Abhishek Rao