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Multi list in same paragraph numbering

Explorer ,
May 09, 2024 May 09, 2024

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Hello dear friends.

How to create a paragraph Numbering that has two set of numbers, one is consecutive and the other starts from one after each title? Like the sample image.

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Community Expert ,
May 09, 2024 May 09, 2024

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I don't think that numbering can be done in any way but manual entry. (I'm sure some kind of a script could be written to apply the numbers, but it would not be automatic and any editing would require the script to be run again.)

 

The only thing I know of that can trigger a numbering reset is a change in the 'parent' number. If there's any way to have some second paragraph style trigger the change... I am not sure how it would work or how to make it consistent.


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May 09, 2024 May 09, 2024

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I can almost get there, but there is a bug in InDesign’s numbering feature, which I will explain.

Screenshot 2024-05-09 at 4.58.25 PM.png

By assigning a numbering level of 1 to the headings and a level of 2 to the numbered paragraphs I can get the numbering I want for the numbered paragraphs, but that means I have to also apply numbering to the headers. The number field in the second image includes a reference to the number of the current level 1 list.

Screenshot 2024-05-09 at 5.00.25 PM.pngScreenshot 2024-05-09 at 5.00.32 PM.png

You might think it would be easy to just not enter numbering options for the headings. Format them as a level 1 numbered paragraph but leave the Number field blank. Unfortunately, without having a number included in the text InDesign kind of forgets what it is supposed to do.

If I leave the Number field blank for the headings…

Screenshot 2024-05-09 at 5.08.16 PM.png

The numbers for the rest of the text break.

Screenshot 2024-05-09 at 5.08.08 PM.png

So there’s no solution that get the numbers right for all the text, right? Well, maybe. But If I create a character style that is practically invisible…

Screenshot 2024-05-09 at 5.21.32 PM.png

It works!

Screenshot 2024-05-09 at 5.21.52 PM.png

So how did I make the number invisible? The point size is 0.1 pt, horizontal scaling is 1%, and there is no fill colour. Technically the numbers are there, but they don’t print and take up no space.

 

 

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Slick. I started down the path, figured there was at least one unbreakable bug, and backed away. 🙂


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May 10, 2024 May 10, 2024

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Thanks Scott, you solved the smaller problem, but the bigger and main problem still remains unsolved. We have two numbers. For each paragraph, the first number must be consecutive and non-repeating. In fact, the first number has nothing to do with the heading and does not want to refer to it, it is a completely separate and consecutive number.

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Ooops. I guess I didn’t look all that closely at your example. Sorry for that.

 

I’m not conviced this can’t be done will just formatting but I would bet against it. I will experiment more tomorrow.

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