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Old RIP - InDesign CC - fonts corrupt

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February 12, 2018
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We work with InDesign CS 5.5 and a Harlequin RIP, which is rather old, but we hardly had problems with that. Now we upgraded to InDesign CC, but the workflow remained the same: InDesign - PDF 1.3 - Harlequin RIP. But now the fonts are corrupted! I have to make outlines of all the text.

Does anyone has the sam problem and knows a workaround?

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dirkk2153896Author

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I think the best way is creating outlines.

Geоrge

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Old believer don't see any problems in create outline text for every PDF with old RIP. Think about it as feature, not a bug.

Remember, never say you can't do something in InDesign, it's always just a question of finding the right workaround to get the job done. © David Blatner

rob day

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InDesign - PDF 1.3 - Harlequin RIP. But now the fonts are corrupted! I have to make outlines of all the text.

Are the fonts corrupted when you view the PDF in Acrobat or only in the output? Does it happen with all fonts or only certain formats?

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dirkk2153896Author

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The PDF setting has not changed! The fonts are embedded, but show strange shapes. In Acrobat, the fonts are allright, even in an old acrobat (4). It must be the newer version of InDesign, or better: the old RIP, which causes the problem

RIP is Harlequin 7.03

Sorry, I can\'t upload pictures.

My workaround is making outlines via Pitstop

rob day

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What about font formats? Does it happen with all fonts—T1, TT, OTF?

BobLevine

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1.3? That’s not old, it’s ancient.

And where exactly are you seeing this corruption?

What operating system is being used?

Dave Creamer of IDEAS

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I believe the 1.3 was in reference to the PDF version used from ID.

PDF 1.3 is the version used for PDF/X-1a. Old, yes, but the version I would use on an old RIP.

David Creamer: Community Expert (ACI and ACE 1995-2023)

BobLevine

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Exactly what I was referring to when I said it was ancient. It’s an 18-year old “standard.”

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Rips are software. They have bugs, need updates, just like any other piece of software. Some shops treat them as if they are a passive machine, like a printing press.

Bill Silbert

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Are you making your pdfs by using the export to pdf function which is File Menu>Export... and then choosing Adobe PDF (Print) from the lower part of the Export dialog window which appears? In the Export Adobe PDF dialog window which subsequently appears what setting are you using in the Fonts part of the Advanced section for subsetting?

The setting I have in the highlighted area above (100%) works for me (it is the default) in terms of making sure that all fonts are embedded. However, I've seen the exact opposite needed in some cases (0%) in order to properly embed the fonts. Try it both ways and see if that helps.

Dave Creamer of IDEAS

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Exactly how old IS the RIP? What version is it? What exact version of ID CC? 2018?

If CC 2018, install and older CC version via the Creative Cloud panel and test that.

David Creamer: Community Expert (ACI and ACE 1995-2023)