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October 15, 2023
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PAC 2021 Check fails since InDesign version 18.4

  • October 15, 2023
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Since InDesign version 18.4 it is no longer possible to check if a PDF file generated with InDesign is accessible and compliant with the PDF/UA standard. The PAC checker aborts the check with the following error message: "Unexpected error: Der Objektverweis wurde nicht auf eine Objektinstanz festgelegt”.

Unfortunately the same behaviour still exists with InDesign CC 2024.

Is there a solution to this problem?

Thanks

Micha Beisser

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Correct answer Frans v.d. Geest

PAC 2024 is now released with many bug fixes!

https://pac.pdf-accessibility.org/en

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Frans v.d. Geest
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 17, 2023

PAC is now owned by Axes4 and they will release an updated version of PAC on November 28th that will fix this message.

So keep an eye on:

https://support.axes4.com/hc/en-us/articles/7371921627794-PDF-Accessibility-Checker-PAC-2021

 

(Again, for those that not fully read this: this link now is still for the version without the fix, so revisit the above link after November 28th)

Frans v.d. Geest
Community Expert
Frans v.d. GeestCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
November 28, 2023

PAC 2024 is now released with many bug fixes!

https://pac.pdf-accessibility.org/en

Inspiring
November 16, 2023

I have the same problem  and have  tried to solve it - I have  2 identical  pdf fiels - generated from ID2022 and  one from ID2024 - teh  2022 version passes but not the 2024 version - it gives the error. Have asked for help in teh Acrobat community - cannot see what the difference is - it is  a huge problem as I cannot ask the client to work in an earlier version of ID which is no onger accessible on teh website. I'm attachign the 2 files in the hope that someone may  spot what the problem is

004-ATL104Eng_Chapter2_AK_2023-11-13-from idml-2022p1.pdf  opens in teh PAC checker

Chapter2_AK_2023-11-13from idml 2024-p1.pdf does not

 

Participant
November 17, 2023

To get rid of the error, you will need to replace the "Minon Pro" used for the headline "Chapter 2" with a TrueType font. This error is font-related and occurs with OpenType fonts but not with TrueType fonts.

Bevi Chagnon - PubCom.com
Legend
November 17, 2023

I don't see how swapping OpenType/Unicode fonts for old ASCII TrueType fonts affects object references.

 

1) The original error reported by the OP is "Der Objektverweis wurde nicht auf eine Objektinstanz festgelegt" (English, "The object reference has not been set to an object instance.")  Fonts shouldn't come into play with this error.

 

2) Unicode/OpenType fonts are required for full accessibility because they standardize each glyph to Unicode encoding for interpretation by screen readers and other machine technologies.

 

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Participant
November 8, 2023

My workaround: Try to find out which picture in your final tagged pdf is making troubles. Save the picture again and make a new export. 

Inspiring
November 17, 2023

I don't think it has anythgn to do with images - I tried my files without images altogether and still got  the  error

Frans v.d. Geest
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 15, 2023

Yes, known and documented problem. It is because of the change in a Framework since 18.4, so all versions after that are affected, including v 19. What may help is to re-save in Acrobat as a Optimized PDF.

Participant
November 3, 2023

I have tried your solution with the opimized pdf. Doesn't solve the problem.

What settings do I have to set for the optimized pdf?

Thanks for your help.

Frans v.d. Geest
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 10, 2023

Choose Save as other > Optimized PDF and simply uncheck all boxes.

Willi Adelberger
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 15, 2023

Did you apply object styles with tags defined?

Frans v.d. Geest
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 16, 2023

Willi, has nothing to do with that, has to do with a Framework change in InDesign versions after 18.3. Known PAC/AxesPDF error.