pages in opposite order

[hendy_5450]

I need to get my document pages to go the opposit way.

For example the first page has to be the last, and vice versa

how can I do that??

[Peter Spier]

@edward382075877wr1  You should be using the ME version of InDesign.

[edward382075877wr1]

yes i already am

[edward382075877wr1]

hi i included a screenshot..

left side pic..

rtl..

pages are swap right to left..

right side pic

this is what i want to achive..

pages swapped right to left..

page number 1.. starts from the bottom(last page)

last page. goes to the top

[Barb Binder]

In the ME versions, you can set the story direction in Type > Story.

https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/arabic-hebrew.html

~Barb

[Joel Cherney]

Here's a thread that describes two different strategies - either using the MultiPageImporter script to place one InDesign file into another in reverse order, or by specifying reverse page order (i.e. 6,5,4,3,2,1) in the Range field of the PDF export dialog. 

[edward382075877wr1]

hi joel,, mutlipageimporter places/shifts the pages content in reverse order but do not actually reverse the pages number.  ..your page1 stays to be page1 and also your last page stays numbered the same way.. 

what this script does is, it shifts/reverses the contents, not the actual page number.

second one is the range field on the PDF export dialog... iam aware of this, but this one is already on output/exporting..  

[Peter Spier]

hi joel,, mutlipageimporter places/shifts the pages content in reverse order but do not actually reverse the pages number.  ..your page1 stays to be page1 and also your last page stays numbered the same way.. 

what this script does is, it shifts/reverses the contents, not the actual page number.

By @edward382075877wr1

Not sure why this would be a problem if the the page numbers are included on the pages you import, and you have no page number markers in the new document.

[Joel Cherney]

mutlipageimporter places/shifts the pages content in reverse order but do not actually reverse the pages number.  ..your page1 stays to be page1 and also your last page stays numbered the same way.. 

I guess I have two questions, then. First is a compound question: "Why does that matter? What are you trying to do?" Seems like you're asking for something impossible, and we might be able to help you better if we understood why this seemingly impossible thing is a requirement. The thread I pointed out to you covered a particular use case - that of a book with two covers. I've made this myself a few times recently - a couple bidirectional English/Japanese comic books, for example. My question is in the same ballpark as @Peter Spier 's question, I think: why does ID's internal page numbering matter to your final product?

Second question is, "Is this a picture you faked up in Photoshop, or is this actually a picture of a real INDD file? Because this looks impossible:" 

This reminds me of conversations I had more than a decade ago, about making "impossible" InDesign files by either editing IDML and reimporting, or by just writing one's own IDML from scratch. I don't know of any way to achieve this page order in InDesign using the UI, or using scripting - that doesn't mean it's not possible, it's just not something I've ever seen. 

[edward382075877wr1]

hi again..

sorry for the inconvenience, but im really a novice in indesign.

on your first question..

im doing an arabic book.. everything is reversed. 

(i know i can just reverse my pages on the pdf export...)

im just trying to find out if theres any option / workaround to have it reversed while im still working on it.. 

on your second question...

ive included a clip..

[Peter Spier]

If your book is in Arabic, the odd numbered pages should be on the left and the evens on the right, so your first and last pages, as shown in the clip and your screen captures, are on the wrong sides. Once the pages are flowing in the correct order, it really doesn't matter if they are represented in the pages panel and in the working space flowing top to bottom, or bottom to top.

[edward382075877wr1]

thanks for pointing that..

[Joel Cherney]

The setting to control what Peter's talking about is in the dialog when you start your file, but you can also find it in the Document Setup menu, File -> Document Setup -> Binding. (In the GIF below, I use Control+Alt+P instead of navigating to the menu with the mouse.) 

This will move the spine to the right, and correctly paginate your document, without using a script:

[Peter Spier]

A further thought, and no slight intended here, but I suspect you are not a native Arabic reader, and your regular experience tells you the book "Starts at the back" which is why you think that the pages should run from bottom to top. In fact, RTL books also "Start at the front," it's just that they're bound on the opposite edge, so a native reader would most likely expect page one to be the first one encountered when scrolling though the document.

[edward382075877wr1]

yes, im not arabic. so its really a pain laying out and arranging all of this text. (100pages).

i think for the most part u got my point.

maybe because of  the book 's layout,. im trying to make it appear the same way on the pages window.

anyways...

thanks for the feedback., and helping sort this one out.