Paragraph separation too great

[leahs72981997]

I was working in an InDesign file yesterday, and all was well.  Today, if I hit the return button, all the text below is moved into a paragraph that cannot be seen.  The frame now indicates that I have text outside the size of the frame. No matter how big I make the frame, the text does not appear.  Even the frames I filled in with text yesterday are doing this today.  What did I do?

[Steve Werner]

It will help if you open up the Story Editor (Edit > Edit in Story Editor) when you have your cursor in the story. You may be able to see a "break character" or something that is keeping the text from showing.

[leahs72981997]

Nope, that doesn't help.  Story Editor indicates that there is an overset as soon as I hit the return, but doesn't show any special character or space. When I return to the document, the text below the return is now all below the visible area of the frame, and the frame has a big empty space.

Thanks, though.  Story Editor will be helpful in other ways.

[Mike Witherell]

Maybe your paragraph style has an accidentally giant space-after or space-before amount? Or if you were not using styles, maybe the default amount in the Control Panel is accidentally set too great an amount?

[winterm]

Which Enter key do you use? Enter on a main keyboard makes new paragraph. By hitting Enter key on the numeric keypad, you create a column break. If there's just one column in a frame, your text jumps to the next threaded frame. If there isn't such, your text is overset.

I mean, use the "green" one:

[Barb Binder]

That's what I would have said, if you hadn't beaten me to it, Winterm!

[winterm]

Ah, "Ladies first", I was taught... I'm so awfully sorry, Barb!

[Barb Binder]

LOL!

[leahs72981997]

OK, this is leading us closer to the solution.  I am back in the office today and working on a keyboard.  What you say above is exactly true.  If I use the return key on the main keyboard, I have no issue.  If I use the return key on the number pad, I have the issue described.

However, yesterday, I was working on my laptop which does not have a number pad.  The return key on the main keyboard was acting like the return key on a number pad.

I am using Creative Cloud, and it says all apps are up-to-date.

[winterm · Accepted solution]

Try Fn+Return combination then.

Edit: also you may find interesting to read this thread.

[leahs72981997]

I don't know why my laptop is giving me the keypad return, but Fn+Return solves the problem.

Thanks!

[vinny38]

Hi

Story editor can (again, yes! ^^) help you out here...

Set invisible characters ON and have a look at the symbol shown in the story editor, just before the excess separator.

which one is it:

If its "normal" return, did you check premio_oscar​ suggestion?

Don't forget screenshots are usually very helpful... maybe you can share some

regards

[vladan saveljic]

check this option:

paragraph style options > keep options > start paragraph

choose "Anywhere"

[Willi Adelberger]

It would also good to know which version are you using. Due to a bug in 2 versions in the past (CS5 several languages, CS6 Swedish) the return key was tagged to the enter key. This could be repaired simply by an update.

[scott_olling]

interesting … the more common problem is hyphenation turned off and a word is too long for the display area … thanks for that article!