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Paragraph Styles - Setting Big Numbering with Text Aligned to Top

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May 23, 2019 May 23, 2019

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I am creating paragraph styles for install instructions. I created a large style for the install steps (based on what we liked) and set it up in the Numbering field:

I would like the text to be aligned with the top of the number, does anyone know how I can achieve this?

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Community Expert , May 23, 2019 May 23, 2019

Change the definition of your "SG - Install Step Numbers" character style. As it is, the large font height forces InDesign to use a much larger line height for the first line. You cannot prevent that, even if you move down the numbers by shifting the baseline.

To get larger numbers without messing up the line height do not use Size but Horizontal and Vertical Scale (in the Advanced section). Set these both to something like 200%, and then use Baseline Shift with a large-ish negative value to set

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Change the definition of your "SG - Install Step Numbers" character style. As it is, the large font height forces InDesign to use a much larger line height for the first line. You cannot prevent that, even if you move down the numbers by shifting the baseline.

To get larger numbers without messing up the line height do not use Size but Horizontal and Vertical Scale (in the Advanced section). Set these both to something like 200%, and then use Baseline Shift with a large-ish negative value to set the vertical position. You need to do this by eye, there is no preset or function for it.

This is what it should look like:

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May 24, 2019 May 24, 2019

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https://forums.adobe.com/people/%5BJongware%5D  wrote

As it is, the large font height forces InDesign to use a much larger line height for the first line.

Hi Jongware

I'm not sure to understand what you mean here...

I can't replicate a situation where character style applied to number changes the leading of the first line, even if I force it by defining huge leading.

Cs6 here (if that makes any difference)

Did I miss something?

Thanks in advance for your expert clarification

Either way, nadines81997130 you should insert a tab ^t instead of en-space ^> after numbering, in order to keep things aligned...

And also maybe use ^# instead of ^2, in case you change your multi-level list (but that's another story...)

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May 24, 2019 May 24, 2019

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vinny38  wrote

… Did I miss something?

Hi Vinny,

perhaps this:

Preferences > Type > Type Options

[ ] Apply Leading To Entire Paragraphs

Checked or not checked?

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Uwe

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May 24, 2019 May 24, 2019

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Hi Uwe

Sure is checked!

This is a preference that I would recommend to anyone to make sure it's checked by default

Besides, if you manually apply a character style with large leading to a part of a paragraph, it wouldn't apply the leading to entire paragraph even with this pref ON.

That said, my point is that character style applied to auto-numbering does not seem to take leading into account.

If you convert numbering to text, then of course, leading changes...

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vinny38  wrote

That said, my point is that character style applied to auto-numbering does not seem to take leading into account.

If you convert numbering to text, then of course, leading changes...

I only discovered this just now, all the while thinking I must have been crazy or something. Nice of Adobe to think of this. (I think -- it must be intentional and I cannot see any drawbacks.) There is another setting that influences the top line spacing: the First Baseline setting of the text frame.

I wonder what the OP's original settings are, to get the result as shown.

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Well, I was also worrying about my own sanity

About OP's setting, here's my guess:

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