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Parenthesis in Font size in InDesign

Forum|Forum|6 years ago
June 14, 2019
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Hello everyone,

I have kinda an issue with my Indesign and can't find a way to solve it.
As you can see in the picture below I have 2 sizes in my text at the same time.
This mostly happens when I copy my page with text and then change the size.
When I change the pt to a round number the second number keeps coming back.

Does anyone know how I can solve this problem? And keep it form happening?

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Correct answer rob day

Reporting in from 2025. You have to love Adobe teams starting a feature and then leaving it half-done forever.

Similarly, InDesign's gradient tool is straight out of 2005 Illustrator, basically unusable.

If only there was a way to borrow features from within the same company's other software, gee, I don't know.

May be too much to ask of a commercial giant who's also the industry standard.

Reporting in from 2025. You have to love Adobe teams starting a feature and then leaving it half-done forever.

There’s nothing half-done about the scale feature. There has to be a way of distinguishing whether a text frame container should be resized with the text content reflowing (Direct Selection or Selection Tools) or transformed with the text content scaling (Free Transform Tool).

As @TᴀW points out there is a Preferences that lets you choose whether the scaled size should be in parentheses where a scaling change is more obvious or it’s simply applied.

R

Really?3

Participating Frequently

What are you supposed to do if you have multiple text frames (captions) on every page in a 158-page document? They seriously can't expect a user to select every text frame on each page one-by-one to perform this nonsense "solution". Oh, just remembered, this is Adobe...

L

Laubender

Community Expert

Hi @Really?3 ,

in this case it could be scripted with e.g. ExtendScript. One would gather all stories in a document and loop through all text frames of every story and work with the method redefineScaling() where the default values are defined effectively as 100% for x and y direction.

var doc = app.documents[0];
var storiesOfDoc = doc.stories.everyItem().getElements();
// Outer loop all stories; inner loop all text containers of a story, leaving text paths alone

for(var s=0; s<storiesOfDoc.length; s++ )
{
	var textContainers = storiesOfDoc[s].textContainers;

	for( var t=0; t<textContainers.length; t++ )
	{
		try{

		textContainers[t].redefineScaling();

		}catch(e){};

	};
};

Note: If a text frame's scaling value of x and y is different, you'll see that expressed in character width changes after running the script.

Regards,
Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Expert )

R

Really?3

Participating Frequently

Hello,

It's been 12 days since this issue was raised with Adobe support and exactly nothing has been done to find a solution to the scaling issue raised on 7/19/24. You've made several attempts to stall the process by requesting updates and information that you're not entitled to feed adobe AI efforts with customer content.

The email I received from adobe dated 7/25 says that I'll be contacted within 24-48 hours by support engineering. How does 48 hours equate with SIX days?

Adobe support is abysmal. Moving to a rental business model has not improved support in any way. This is what we pay RENT for?

Also, the gibberish response above from "Laubender" is not what we are paying for. I don't write / troubleshoot code for free, especially for adobe. What is the real solution to this decades-old problem?

M

Michelle37215332lfsl

Participant

Following all of the answers on this thread, i cannot find the "redefine scaling as 100%" anywhere. I have a mac and am on Indesign CC2024. How do i fix this?

M

Michelle37215332lfsl

Participant

I cannot delete this comment, but i figured it out. I was looking at the incorrect "transform" option.

G

Greeneyedpainter

Inspiring

It seems so many people want this turned off because it makes it harder to see the actual size of the font. Please consider making the default setting "Apply to Content" when scaling. Users will still have the option to change it to "Adjust Scaling Percentages" if they want to see the parentheses in their font size box.

Respectfully,

Stacey

L

Laubender

Community Expert

Hi @Greeneyedpainter ,

when Scaling "Apply to Content" is already the default setting after you installed a new fresh InDesign.

So from Adobe's side there is not much to do.

Regards,
Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Expert )

J

julipires

Participant

Hi,

Thanks for sharing your suggestion.

It did not work for me, unfortunately.

L

Laubender

Community Expert

Hi @julipires ,

what did you try exactly?

Can you share a sample document?

Thanks,
Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Expert )

msage1026

Participating Frequently

Hi Uwe, I am using InDesign 2023 and even when I changed the preferences to "when scaling: apply to content" under general, restarted Mac and Indesign, it's still happening. It's driving me crazy. Any ideas? Thank you!! Maggie

TᴀW

Legend

This happens when the text frame that has the text in it has been rescaled.

To get rid of the parentheses, select the text frame, go to the flyout menu in the Control Panel (top right of the screen), and choose "Redefine Scaling as 100%".

KerstjeAuthor

Participant

Thank you for the answer!
This is exactly the solution for the problem

TᴀW

Legend

You're welcome.

To answer the second part of the question, to prevent it happening in the future, there's a Preference setting for that.

In Preferences, under the General tab, under When Scaling, select the "Apply to Content" setting.

This will basically automatically apply "Redefine Scaling as 100%" whenever you happen to scale a text frame or object.

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