Photoshop image place into Indesign document

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June 28, 2021
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Hi,

What is the correct manner for place PhotoShop-image into InDesign document. (steps + settings)

problem 1:

There is a difference in color (on the screen) between the PhotoShop image and the InDesign image.

problem-2:

There is a difference in color between te print-work outcome + photoShop + InDesign colors.

Except color-diffrences it seems there is a light brown haze all over the colors (seems litte dirty? and darker).

printer-man has give me printer-profile + pdf setting.

Please suggestions?

regards,

Jan

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Correct answer rob day

Hi Jan, a few things to note: the color management color profiles cascade—if a placed image has no color profile assignment (an image listed as Document RGB or CMYK in the Link Info panel), the InDesign document’s assigned profile (Edit>Assign Profiles...) manages the preview. If the InDesign document has no profile assignment, the fall back for the preview is the Color Settings’ current Working Color Space. In Photoshop the fall back for an image with no embedded profile is also the current Color Settings.

Your capture of the InDesign Links panel shows a placed PNG as DocumentRGB (no Embedded profile). Your capture of InDesign’s Assign Profiles... dialog also shows no profile is assigned to the ID document, so the preview of the PNG is falling back to your current Color Settings’ Working RGB profile.

Your last post shows a capture of an image in Photoshop (z-PhotoShop-StatusBar-01.jpg) in CMYK mode with Coated Fogra 39 assigned to the image. You can’t save PNGs as CMYK, and if you Save As PNG, the color will be converted into RGB on the save—the save dialog lets you choose whether to embed a profile.

If you save the CMYK file as a .PSD with no profile embedded and place it into an InDesign document with no profile, it will get the current Color Settings’ CMYK Working profile, which is US Web Coated SWOP in your first set of captures. So, in Photoshop the image preview is Coated FOGRA 39, but in InDesign the preview would be US Web Coated SWOP, which would show a different color preview.

rob day

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Hi Jan, a few things to note: the color management color profiles cascade—if a placed image has no color profile assignment (an image listed as Document RGB or CMYK in the Link Info panel), the InDesign document’s assigned profile (Edit>Assign Profiles...) manages the preview. If the InDesign document has no profile assignment, the fall back for the preview is the Color Settings’ current Working Color Space. In Photoshop the fall back for an image with no embedded profile is also the current Color Settings.

Your capture of the InDesign Links panel shows a placed PNG as DocumentRGB (no Embedded profile). Your capture of InDesign’s Assign Profiles... dialog also shows no profile is assigned to the ID document, so the preview of the PNG is falling back to your current Color Settings’ Working RGB profile.

Your last post shows a capture of an image in Photoshop (z-PhotoShop-StatusBar-01.jpg) in CMYK mode with Coated Fogra 39 assigned to the image. You can’t save PNGs as CMYK, and if you Save As PNG, the color will be converted into RGB on the save—the save dialog lets you choose whether to embed a profile.

If you save the CMYK file as a .PSD with no profile embedded and place it into an InDesign document with no profile, it will get the current Color Settings’ CMYK Working profile, which is US Web Coated SWOP in your first set of captures. So, in Photoshop the image preview is Coated FOGRA 39, but in InDesign the preview would be US Web Coated SWOP, which would show a different color preview.

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Also, do you place the PSD file directly into InDesign with Place from the File menu, or do you use different steps (which steps?) There are many mistakes possible because there are so many ways to do this.

T

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Ah, I think I see you used PNG. I also think perhaps you used Export in Photoshop to save the PNG. These two will surely give wrong colour. I suggest you place the PSD directly. If you must use a PNG, use Save As or Save A Copy, never any Export function, as these are for web use only (yes, the name is very misleading!)

Frans v.d. Geest

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That all has to do with colour management. What is the source, RGB? And what is the icc profile? What is the output profile and how is your coulour management set up?

c.pfaffenbichler

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And the pdf export settings could still mess with the color management, though it does not seem very likely if the print provider has provided pdf settings.