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Print Page Footers Showing in EPub at End Of Chapter?

Community Beginner ,
Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023

I have a book that will be printed on Ingram (via PDF upload) and available via EPub on Google Play Books.

 

Using the default EPub export from InDesign, the footers from the print edition are showing up in the EPub at the end of the chapter all stcked up. Here's the print layout:

 

print layout.jpg

 

You can see the "Introduction to Show Control" at the bottom of page one.  In the EPub (as uploaded to Google books) all the footers stack up at the end of the chapter:

 

ebookproblems.jpg

 

I did this with a previous book (same file format and trim size) back in 2020 and did not have this problem, maybe I had some setting change that I forgot to document?

 

In addition, you can see the graphic element, which lays across two pages in the print master pages, is getting cropped off (see purple circle above) to the right side of the EPub output (or spreads across into an adjacent page when viewing the file locally). I don't need that graphic element in the Ebook, is there a way to turn it off in the export? 

 

I'm trying not to fork these into separate InDesign files.

 

Thanks!!!

 

John

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Community Expert , Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023

I think at some point you must have copied those elements to doc pages. (It's easy enough to do, and is usually done to allow local modifications to Pareng page elements.) Go to each doc page and drag a marquee across those footers. If you can select them there, delete them.

 

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Community Expert ,
Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023

Are those footers on the live pages? They should be on the parent.

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Community Beginner ,
Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023

They are on the master pages.  See screen shot: 

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Community Beginner ,
Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023

Oh sorry I thought this response posted but apparently it didn't. 

 

The footers are on the parent pages:

 

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Community Expert ,
Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023

Is this for a FXL (fixed layout) EPUB? If so, Bob's comment is likely spot-on. You want to avoid loose items on the pages.

 

If it's for reflowable, there are no page elements because there are no pages, and any unanchored elements will do exactly what you see, sort of fall to the end of the book.

 

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Community Beginner ,
Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023

Reflowable.  So I guess my only option is to make a separate set of Parent pages for the EBook?  That's unfortunate 😞 

John

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Community Expert ,
Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023

Reflowable EPUBs have no pages, therefore have no page elements like headers and footers. The contents of Parent pages are typically omitted in a reflowable export, therefore you shouldn't have to do anything special. It can be a tad easier to have separate ID documents for print and EPUB export, but it's perfectly possible to do both from one InDesign master.

 

But everything in the document has to be in one text flow, with all elements like images anchored to the text. You can't just stick things to the pages as you can for print.

 

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Community Beginner ,
Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023

Weird, I'm not sure why but I have tried to reply twice to Bob's posting but the posts don't seem to be posting.  The footers are on the parent pages.

 

Thanks, John

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Community Expert ,
Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023

If they're on the parent then they shouldn't be showing up in a reflowable epub. Have you overridden them and brought them to a live page for editing?

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Community Beginner ,
Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023

No they are right on the parent and I haven't edited them in any other way that I know of.  I'm going to try again in the next reply to post the screen shot.

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Community Expert ,
Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023

Maybe I'm missing something, but they pretty much can't go from Parent pages to a reflowable EPUB unless they have independent instances on the document pages. Parent page content is discarded completely in reflowable EPUB export.

 

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Community Beginner ,
Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023

I'm an indesign novice but I'm stumped.  As far as I can tell it's only in the parent pages.  See screen shot below.

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Community Beginner ,
Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023

OK it looks like the screen shot finally posted below.  That was bizarre, I posted it three times, it would show up, and then I would reload and it was gone.  Seems to be there now.  

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Community Beginner ,
Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023

Here's the screen shot:

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Community Beginner ,
Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023

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Community Expert ,
Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023

I think at some point you must have copied those elements to doc pages. (It's easy enough to do, and is usually done to allow local modifications to Pareng page elements.) Go to each doc page and drag a marquee across those footers. If you can select them there, delete them.

 

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Community Beginner ,
Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023
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Thanks, that seems to have done the trick! 

 

I had to delete them off all the pages and then re-Apply the Parent to all the pages and that seems to print OK but those extra items are no longer in the EPub.

 

Thanks everyone for your help! What an amazing group.

 

John

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Community Expert ,
Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023

Footer and header should always remain on the parent page and never be overridden. Use text variables and markers or parent pages based on other pages, but never override them. This is important for epubs but also for PDF/UA. 

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Community Beginner ,
Mar 24, 2023 Mar 24, 2023

Yes they are on the parent page with text variables, etc.  See above screen shot.

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