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February 6, 2009
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Print to edge of paper

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I have forgotten how to make a page print all the way to the edge of the paper, and I cannot remember what that effect is named. Thus, I can't find an answer in the FAQ's. Thank you for any help.
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Michael_Gianino
Inspiring
February 11, 2009
>311mm wide (no idea what that is in American)

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Kath-H
Kath-H
Inspiring
February 11, 2009
We use a Konica-Minolta Bizhub that takes paper up to 311mm wide (no idea what that is in American) and allows for crops & bleeds on A3. The only sensible way to do it IMO.
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Vernox
Inspiring
February 11, 2009
I've had a couple of Xerox laser printers over the years that would print edge to edge, but it was always more trouble than it was worth, due to toner buildup on the rollers. When we had to do it, we always had to open them up, wipe off the rolls and run a few blank sheets to clean the internals.

Yours
Vern
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Anonymous
February 11, 2009
>In traditional offset printing, you handle edge-to-edge by printing to paper larger than your logical page size and trimming the excess off. That way, you don't have ink slopping off the edges on the press.

This is a good point to keep in mind. If you do very much Borderless printing you will be spraying past the edge of the paper causing buildup on your rollers that can cause ink blotches and globs after a time. You would be better off getting a printer that will take an oversize sheet and trim it.
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_Feote_Author
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February 11, 2009
Thanks to everyone. It turns out that my printer lacks edge to edge capability. I was able to print a normal copy, then scan and copy it at 107%. That filled the page, but the picture quality suffered. I have reached the "acceptance" stage;-) In an effort to single handedly jump start the economy I will purchase a printer that will do edge to edge jobs. Thank you all very much for the comments.
RodneyA
RodneyA
Participating Frequently
February 11, 2009
Actually, my old Xerox "Phaser" laser printer could print to the edge of the page -- or impressively close, anyway. But if that's what the original poster meant, it's printer specific and you need to go into the Page Setup dialog (ignoring Indesign's warnings) and look in the "printer features" pages for an "edge to edge" printing option. Xerox's logic in not making that on by default escapes me. Why would anyone would want an artificial margin when the printer is capable of edge to edge?
    Dov Isaacs
    Dov Isaacs
    Legend
    February 11, 2009
    One of the reasons why most digital printers either don't provide full edge-to-edge printing or if they have it, don't by default enable it, is the problem of bleed. In traditional offset printing, you handle edge-to-edge by printing to paper larger than your logical page size and trimming the excess off. That way, you don't have ink slopping off the edges on the press. But most laser printers and their users don't user such oversize papers and don't cut all output to final logical page sizes. (That option is often available, though, on B-size laser printers that accept 12x18 paper that can be used to print edge-to-edge - i.e. bleeds - for output to be cut to 11x17. Similarly, 9x12 paper could be used on such printers to bleed 8.5x11.)

    - Dov
    - Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)
    Mr. Met
    Mr. Met
    Inspiring
    February 7, 2009
    Other than photo printers, no laser, digital or offset printer can print edge to edge. No such thing as borderless printing in commercial printing. <br /> <br />Here's a brief explanation of what bleed is. The middle image has trim marks. Everything outside the trim marks gets trimmed (cut off) leaving a finished bus cd (bottom image) that has art to the "edge" of the card. <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1v3uESkVXBNq9AQhXGEF1oZZvhUoA" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1v3uESkVXBNq9AQhXGEF1oZZvhUoA_thumb.jpg" border="0" />
    BobLevine
    Community Expert
    BobLevineCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    February 7, 2009
    If you are truly trying to print to the edge of the paper you need a
    printer capable of borderless printing.

    If you don't see that setting in the printer software then it can't be done.

    Bob
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      Michael_Gianino
      Inspiring
      February 7, 2009
      Can you post a screenshot of your page? Make sure the guides are on so we can see everything
      Mr. Met
      Mr. Met
      Inspiring
      February 7, 2009
      If you create a new document, you have the option of setting bleed. .125 is commercial standard for majority of offset print jobs though some printers prefer .25 bleed. Critical information, like text, may need to be .125 from the edge of the sheet. This area is your safety and you set this in margins. So when you make a new doc with defined safety and bleed, you should see 3 boxes: Black for the actual page, an outer red box indicating bleed area and inner red or magenta box indicating safety.
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