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May 28, 2021
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printing booklet with centre spread in portrait

  • May 28, 2021
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Hi

I have created an 8 page booklet with the centre spread in landscape mode.

It does not print that way, the centre spread appears off the page no matter how I rotate the masters and the pages themselves.

If I have explained this well enough maybe someone can help with the format required so I can print the booklet.

If I use a pdf version the printer charges me colour for all pages, Indesign only charges for colour pages and mono for the others.

 

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Beste Antwort von Brad @ Roaring Mouse

Oh, I can send it again at CS6

 

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Brad @ Roaring Mouse
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May 29, 2021

Ignoring all the talk about printing some pages in color and others in b&w for the moment......

The issue here with your file is that I think you are confused what Rotate does with pages in Pages Panel. It only rotates how you VIEW a page, not the way it will be printed.

You created two master pages for your p4 an 5 that are different than the rest of the document (i.e they are A4 landcape); instead, you should have left them as portrait like the rest of your document, and then select and rotate all the items on those pages and rotate that instead. THEN to make it easier for you to work on them, you can Rotate the page view. Again, this only affects your view of p4 and 5.. they will print the way you expect.

 

 

Participating Frequently
May 29, 2021

Thank you for your excellent assistance. The one issue that stops me going further is I am using CS6 and cannot open the file. I was so excited to open up the computer and work on it ... but I had to stay with CS6 because I no longer make $$ from this work.

BTW I have a Konica Minolta C360 printer and don't mind the borders etc for the jobs I do.

Brad @ Roaring Mouse
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May 29, 2021

Oh, I can send it again at CS6

 

rob day
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May 28, 2021

Bound books generally need to be setup as single facing pages with the width and height set to the final trim size.

 

A facing page document can be output or exported as spreads by clicking the Spreads option in the General tab. The output orientation is set in the Print dialog’s Setup tab, there’s no need to rotate the document pages or page view. Rotating the spread view is useful for designing things like calenders where the spine is at the top of the document, but it doesn’t actually rotate the spread itself.

 

 

Participating Frequently
May 29, 2021

Thanks. I'm learning extra details each day. Up to now I've done basic posters, ordinary print jobs etc.

It's exciting but also a minefield!

cheers

Roger

sunny.sunny
Inspiring
May 28, 2021

Could you please check this file? As far as I understood, it should be fine now. 

Participating Frequently
May 29, 2021

I should have said, I only have CS6.

Willi Adelberger
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May 28, 2021

What is the purpose for using print booklet? It uses postscript and as you know, with InDesign you should avoid EPS and PostScript.

If you want to print the file, create a PDF and let the printer do the imposing, it is not the task of the designer. Your task should be to create a clean file, formatted with styles.

Participating Frequently
May 28, 2021

simply, the pdf doesn't send the correct signal to the printer. I get charged much more for printing colour than black and Indesign does differentiate. So I'd rather solve the centre spread issue and save a minimum of $35 every print run.

Thanks for telling me my job.

Legend
May 28, 2021

What if you make two new portrait pages, cut the contents of the landscape pages, paste them into the portrait pages and rotate them, then delete the landscape pages.

As to the color, if you turn off the black, only 2, 6 & 7 have no color other than black. Is that what you had intended? Are you say they are charging you for color in those 3 pages also if you send a PDF? How are you making the PDF? Is this being printed digitally, or on press?

Participating Frequently
May 28, 2021

Hi, thanks for these comments.

I have, for the centre spread, inserted pdf of the pages and rotated them but Indesign doesn't seem to care what I do with that.

I created pdf file using Nitro pro v12.

I'd have to look at how I turn off black as you suggest - I need 2,3, 6,7 to be black only.

My printer contract charges a rate for A4 colour and a lesser rate for A4 black. The printer identifies the colour v black. the Nitro pro doesn't tell the printer that two pages are black.

 

I've just started thinking of making a book and then having the centre spread as a subset of the book. Long time since I've done a book (350 pages back then). Don't know if it will work but I've a couple of weeks to get it right before the next program is required.

 

cheers

Roger

rob day
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May 30, 2021

My printer contract charges a rate for A4 colour and a lesser rate for A4 black. The printer identifies the colour v black. the Nitro pro doesn't tell the printer that two pages are black.

 

When you export a PDF do not include any printer marks—crop marks export as 4-color. Also, the images on page 3 are in RGB mode so that page will include all 4-colors. You can open Separation Previe and turn off the Black separation plate to see what pages include color objects:

 

 

 

The page 3 images are in RGB mode and need to be saved as Grayscales in order to print as black only