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Will Price
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November 14, 2023
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Question about Hanging Punctuation

  • November 14, 2023
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And can anyone explain why hanging punctuation no longer works?

 

I have a Pull-Quote style set to ignore the optical margin. It works in the first column but doesn't in the fourth.

 

 

No Overides. No idea why.

 

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Barb Binder
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 14, 2023

Hi Will:

 

As I said on the other thread‚ I'm teaching today so time is limited. I'll cycle back afterwards to elaborate, but basically I was just musing out loud about the confusing nature of hanging punctuation. It's controlled by the story/threaded text frames and not by paragraphs even though it is in the Type menu with the text commands. 

 

But has Steve said, this has not changed since the feature was introduced. It's always been this way.

 

~Barb

~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
Barb Binder
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 14, 2023

Hi @Will Price:

 

The real question is why does InDesign put the hanging indent controls in the Type menu and not Object menu—it's enabled for the story and not via a paragraph style definition. (Ignore Optical Margin settings is an para-level option, but enabling it is not.) Very confusing. 

 

The answer at any rate, is to enable it for the frame in your second screenshot, if it is a stand-alone frame, and not threaded to the one in your first screen shot. 

 

~Barb

~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
Will Price
Inspiring
November 14, 2023

Hi Barb,

 

Thanks for the reply. I'm still confused.

You can override paragraph styles with text frame properties? If so, where do I find that? I can't see anything on the text frame properties to set it to ignore the optical margin.

 

Willi Adelberger
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 14, 2023

Optical margins are NOT a part of the paragraph style, they are defined in the story panel. The definitions there are part of the object style.