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Linda.R.Smith
Linda.R.Smith
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September 3, 2020
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Renumber tri-fold pages for a screen reader to scan in proper order 5, 6, 1 ,2, 3, 4

  • September 3, 2020
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I produced a tri-fold brochure as 3-up single pages. Naturally they are numbered in order 1-3, 4-6. When I export it as a PDF, and re-order the content to begin on page 3 (front) from top to bottom, then page 1... etc. It begins on page 1(2nd page folded). Is it possible to set up the page numbers the way its read in it's folding order: 5, 6, 1 ,2, 3, 4 so the screen reader scans in the correct order when folded? 

 

Note: I have a version set up as single page panels for web/mobile but I work for the government who wants all our documents accessible. I'm trying to avoid yet another version of the same layout. 

 

Thank you

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Correct answer Laubender

Hi LRS,

you could put all your pages to one single spread with a non-facing pages document and move your pages with the Page Tool in InDesign. The outer area is on top, pages 5,6,1, the inner area is at the bottom, 2,3,4. I assume that the width of pages 4 and 5 must be a bit different from the others, perhaps 2 to 5 mm short. I indicated this with a different master, master B:

 

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

( ACP )

 

 

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Linda.R.Smith
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September 10, 2020

Thank you for everyone's suggestions. My aplogies for not responding earlier. Between the Labor Day holiday and my deadline, I was having additional issues with the tagging order. While addressing those, I think the only way I can do this is to produce the PDF run the accessability tools then manually go into the tagged content and move them in place which would be a very tedius task. I came to this conclusion after stumbling onto this docuemnt on how to move tagging order. https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/pdf-tagging.pdf

 

While origianlly posting this issue it dawned on me, do I really need an accessalbe trifold document for something that is specifically meant to be printed and physically read? We have a single-page web/mobile version. 

Mike Witherell
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Mike WitherellCommunity Expert
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September 10, 2020

If you have other versions that are fully tagged, you might reason that you could allow this version to be only *nominally* tagged for reader devices, unless your agency policy says otherwise.

Mike Witherell
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LaubenderCommunity Expert
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September 7, 2020

Hm. It's about the reading order.

Working from my suggestion one could do a PDF for web export with pages 1 to 6 as single pages.

 

The case would be different if the brochure should be shown in two pages where the contents should be read in reading order 1-6. I did not test this situation, but you best do it with one single story of threaded text frames that is going from 1 to 2, from 2 to 3 and so on. All images that are not considered an artifact should be anchored to the text of that threaded story.

Use the Articles panel for this as first step. Depending on the ability of the screen reader this could work…

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

( ACP )

 

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LaubenderCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
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September 7, 2020

Hi LRS,

you could put all your pages to one single spread with a non-facing pages document and move your pages with the Page Tool in InDesign. The outer area is on top, pages 5,6,1, the inner area is at the bottom, 2,3,4. I assume that the width of pages 4 and 5 must be a bit different from the others, perhaps 2 to 5 mm short. I indicated this with a different master, master B:

 

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

( ACP )

 

 

    Randy Hagan
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    Randy HaganCommunity Expert
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    September 7, 2020

    I concur with Uwe.

     

    If you want different blocks of copy and art to print on a single sheet, it's a lot easier to place them on a single InDesign document page as columns than it is to stitch spreads together and try to print them as spreads and hope they line up the way you expect.

     

    Randy

    Mike Witherell
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    Mike WitherellCommunity Expert
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    September 7, 2020

    Did you go to Pages Panel and renumber your pages, not 1,2,3,4,5,6, but rather 5, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4 (by using the Pages Panel menu button > Numbering and Section Options?

    Thereafter, have you tried File > Export to PDF > dialog box > General > Pages > RANGE > 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 Export As Pages.

    Mike Witherell
    Linda.R.Smith
    Linda.R.SmithAuthor
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    September 10, 2020

    Thank you Mike, I suppose the only way is as you discribed. I was trying to avoid multiple versions that would need to be maintained.

    Linda 

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