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Inspiring
January 5, 2024
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Single InDesign file for soft-cover and hard-cover books?

  • January 5, 2024
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Hello Friends. I the past, I had one InDesign file for my softcover book, and another file for the hardcover of the same book. The two InDesign files are identical, except for some measurements. For my new books, I'm thinking, there may be a way to have only one InDesign file that covers both options. Did you run into sumething like this, do you have any ideas how this can be accomplished? Thanks a lot.

Correct answer Talal-Itani

If you use the 3-page cover construction, the cover file would technically have 3 pages, but in two spreads.

 

You could get tricky with Parent page elements that would be then shared to each cover layout, but it's probably best to make each its own standalone layout. That means you'll use most elements twice in the file.


I was just rereading your precious messages, to try to grasp things. How about, a single spread, for the paperback, then, a script that changes the dimensions, to make it hardcover. Won't that work?

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James Gifford—NitroPress
Legend
January 5, 2024

The short answer is yes, you could design a single layout that would work for both softcover (trade paperback) and hardcover (wrap on boards). (I don't think you could do a single file for both softcover and a dust jacket, though.)

 

To be honest, I don't think it's a good idea or that there's much advantage to it. If you want to keep one source file for consistency of layout, content, images, etc., then have two pages, one sized and optimized for softcover, the other for hardcover wrap. Use the three-page spread model and, ideally, a background image that does not require precise horizontal placement (such as color breaks meant to go right on the spine edges).

 

But you could do one file, one page for both by using the page size (actually, the 3-page spread size) for softcover and either bleed or slug extensions to expand the size for hardcover wrap. This will require background images or elements that extend to the limits of the bleed or slug, while not losing any design or content value when trimmed to the page size. Most likely, the HC layout will need about one half inch additional top and bottom, and about an inch in total width — but work very closely to your print service's given template sizes and dimensions.

 

The other issue will be spine thickness, which is about ten percent thicker or so for hardcover. It's easy enough to center content on the spine page, but allowing for the extra width and for things like cover flex gutters (1/8 inch or so between the spine edge and the start of cover content, basically needed on HC only), the front and rear cover art really should be moved out from the spine to accommodate. You can do a design that is tolerant of spine variations, but it will have a varying look on each edition.

 

I'd really recommend using one file, two pages, optimized page+bleed sizes for each layout, though.

Inspiring
January 5, 2024

Now I'm thinking, a single 3-page layout, with a script, or something, that resizes things. Basically, resize, generate a PDF. Then resize, generate the other PDF. The advantage for me, consistency, a single layout.

James Gifford—NitroPress
Legend
January 6, 2024

Yes, sure, I agree. I'll have to learn how to control InDesign. And thanks for your assistance.


You would probably benefit from an understanding of Maslow's Hammer. 🙂

 

Put more plainly, just because you are used to scripting and automating processes doesn't mean it's always a best option. Some things are best left simple.

rob day
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 5, 2024

Hi @Talal-Itani , Sorry I read your post too fast and thought you were referring to the covers. What are the measurements that are different? Do the interiors have a different trim size?

Inspiring
January 5, 2024

Hello @rob day Yes, the interior is the same. It's the same book. Yet the cover for the hardcover has a slightly bigger spine, and slightly bigger front and back. The artwork is the same, and I'll be sending two different PDFs. One PDF for the cover of the softcover, and nother for the cover of the hardcover. I thought, I can have one InDesign file, from which I can generate both PDFs. 

rob day
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 5, 2024

I would think you should send a single file for the interior, and provide two additional files for the covers—I would assume they have different spine and cover dimensions?

rob day
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 5, 2024

Hi @Talal-Itani , If either the hardcover or the softcover have a spine, it would probably be easier for the printer to get a separate document for the cover. The interior text pages will need to be imposed and it’s not likely the cover will print with the imposed signatures, but check with your printer

 

If the binding is saddle stitch and is a self cover—cover is on the same paper as the interior—then you would want to include the cover with the text pages.