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September 28, 2021
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some MYANMAR TEXT cannot type properly in InDesign - Pyidaungsu font, Pyidaungsu Number font

  • September 28, 2021
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Hello team,

 

We use Adobe InDesing CC with Myanmar unicode "Pyidaungsu font" and "Pyidaungsu Number font" which are official fonts by Myanmar Government. These fonts are supported by Microsoft and Apple platforms and no this issue happened in MS & Apple. In InDesign some Myanmar characters are not displayed properly as shown below and attached .indd file.

 

suppose to display - "စ္စ" when type [စ + (shift+F) + စ] with Pyidaungsu font. But InDesign displayed (စ္ စ).

suppose to display - "က္က" when type [က + (shift+F) + က] with Pyidaungsu font. But InDesign displayed (က္ က).

 

Link to font: https://myanmar.gov.mm/en/-/pyidaungsu-fonts-and-keyboards

 

Appreciate you can support us. Thank.

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Correct answer Joel Cherney

Well, when I test your file, here's what I get when I change the composer to the World-Ready Composer. You can find it in the Type menu, as well as in the Justification dialog (Ctrl+Alt+Shift+J).

 

 

It's also in a few other places, including in the Justification section of your paragraph style:

 

 

If that's not what you see, you might want to try resetting your preferences

2 replies

Thu Ra
Participating Frequently
October 5, 2021

Hi,

Could not use bullets & numbering style. Please help me do not
solve the problem.

Joel Cherney
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 5, 2021

Are you using the most recent version of InDesign? You should be on 16.4, which is CC 2021. I had many problems like this in CC 2020, which I had to work around in order to deliver a project. If you're not on 16.4, you should update if you can. When I found issues like this, I found that I could resolve them by finishing my layout, then going to Type -> Convert Bullets to Text, and then by whacking the Enter key at the end of each line,. I don't know if that will work for you, but it's how I managed to deliver.

 

This behavior is discussed over at indesign.uservoice.com in more than one bug report, that was reported by the devs as fixed. If you're on InDesign 2021, then maybe it's not fixed. Can you post an InDesign file which shows this behavior?

Thu Ra
Participating Frequently
January 13, 2022

I am actually the kind of person to campaign against importing the idea of italics into a language that doesn't already have italics. I don't feel good about trying to tell you about how Myanmar text should be formatted; looking at my very American name, and then looking at your name, I suspect that you probably know far better than me what Myanmar text should look like! However,  I don't necessarily agree that it is a user need; when I see it myself, it's usually a boss need.

 

As in: here's a story I hear on a regular basis. "My boss told me that he wanted these pullquotes in italics! And this Arabic/Burmese/Chinese/Dari/Ethiopic/Farsi/Greek/etc. font doesn't have italics! What do I do? I need someone to fix this font for me! Or my boss will be mad."

 

To which I respond: "This language doesn't have italics in its typographical tradition. That's because the word 'italic' means 'in the style of the calligraphy of wealthy and literate Romans, who 2000 years ago lived in the place we now call Italy.' If you need typographic emphasis, you need to figure out what those Arabic/Burmese/Chinese/Dari/Ethiopic/Farsi/Greek/etc. peoples use when they need emphasis. Sometimes this is as simple as using a bolder face, or using an underline. Sometimes it's more complicated."

 

And then I hear back: "But my boss..."

 

And I respond "That's what actually needs to be fixed, here... your bosses' expectations." 

 

Now, this may not be your situation. I would say, if you don't want to make fonts yourself, or pay someone else to make fonts for you, and Pyidaungsu doesn't have the italics you need, then you are going to need to switch fonts. I note that there actually is an oblique face of Myanmar Text. To my eyes, it looks like someone took Myanmar Text and just skewed it to fake an oblique. So it may be just as bad, typographically speaking, as using the skew tool in InDesign! Sorry that I don't have a better answer for you. 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

Hello Team

How to add Math Symbol in Pyidaungsu Myanmar Font?

 

Joel Cherney
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 28, 2021

It looks like applying the World-Ready Composer is what you need to do. It's a setting either in your Justification, orin the Justification section in your Paragraph Style. 

 

September 29, 2021
Thank you for your reply.

Justification settings, paragraph style and character style setting do not
solve the problem.

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Best Regards;

Ko Ye
Joel Cherney
Community Expert
Joel CherneyCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
September 29, 2021

Well, when I test your file, here's what I get when I change the composer to the World-Ready Composer. You can find it in the Type menu, as well as in the Justification dialog (Ctrl+Alt+Shift+J).

 

 

It's also in a few other places, including in the Justification section of your paragraph style:

 

 

If that's not what you see, you might want to try resetting your preferences