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Strange First Line Indent bug in Indesign

Community Beginner ,
Jun 20, 2019 Jun 20, 2019

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Hi Experts,

We have faced the series First Line Indent issue in the InDesign version (CC2017-2019). The first line indent is not working if we have the span column text in the InDesign file. It will get the indentation after made any changes in the paragraph. Here the example InDesign file for your checking.

1st Page: (No issues with first line Indent)

Screen Shot 2019-06-20 at 6.19.24 PM.png

2nd Page: First line indent is not working in the first paragraph(But indent value shows 10 pts)

Screen Shot 2019-06-20 at 6.20.14 PM.png

Please let me know any idea about this issue?

Thanks,

Velladurai

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Community Expert , Jul 25, 2019 Jul 25, 2019

Hi IDScript ,

that bug should be fixed with the latest prerelease version 14.0.3.413 of InDesign CC 2019.

Just tested that with my German version on Windows 10.

If you want to see yourself sign in to Adobe InDesign Prerelease.

I quote from Adobe UserVoice with Abhinav Kaushik (Quality Engineer, Adobe InDesign):

( Changed the build number from 14.0.3.407 to 14.0.3.413 )

1. Go to adobeprerelease.com

2. Log in with your Adobe Id.

3. Once logged in, search for “InDesign CC Prerelease” program in the list.

4.

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Community Expert ,
Jun 20, 2019 Jun 20, 2019

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Hi IDScript:

I don't seem to be able to recreate this issue. Is there another variable involved?

Screen Shot 2019-06-20 at 9.41.20 AM.png

~Barb

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 20, 2019 Jun 20, 2019

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Hi BarbBinder,

Thanks for your support.

Please check the problematic InDesign file from the below Dropbox link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1ad9c77lezt7vz1/testing_file.indd?dl=0

Regards,

Velladurai

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Community Expert ,
Jun 21, 2019 Jun 21, 2019

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Hi Velladurai,

I opened your document for testing with InDesign CC 2019 version 14.0.2 on Windows 10 and see the same.

It seems to be a bug. A text composition redraw bug.

My solution:

As soon as I change the height of the text frame on page 2 the text redraws and the indent is showing up.

If that will not help, try the following:

Export to IDML and open the IDML file as document.

The issue should be gone.

Regards,
Uwe

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Jun 21, 2019 Jun 21, 2019

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Hi Uwe,

Yes, the Indent is showing up if we made any changes in that page or text. For your information, we have just shared the testing document for your better understanding, actually my working file has more than 500 pages with the XML structure. In this case the IDML file is not open in InDesign application, it was not responding.

Regards,

Velladurai

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Community Expert ,
Jun 21, 2019 Jun 21, 2019

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Hi Velladurai,

maybe the XML structure is the problem. In conjunction with a paragraph that has split column applied as next paragraph. All speculation.

Whatever the cause is, report the issue: Adobe InDesign Feedback

When done come back here and post the URL of the report so that we can vote for fixing the bug.

Another workaround you could try:

Enforce recompose of all stories of the document with a keyboard shortcut ( no visible menu item available for this ).

See "Recompose all stories":

Learn the default keyboard shortcuts in InDesign

Important:

For my German InDesign on Windows the keyboard shortcut that is suggested by the documentation is Alt + Strg + / .

But that's wrong. Actually it's Strg+Alt+# .

For an English InDesign it should be:

Alt+Ctrl+/ or Option+Command+/ ( Mac OS X ).

In case the keyboard shortcut will not work use this script code ( ExtendScript / JavaScript ) that addresses the menu action without a visible menu in the UI of InDesign:

( function()

{

  

    if( app.documents.length == 0 ){ return };

    if( app.documents[0].stories.length == 0 ){ return };

    app.menuActions.itemByName("$ID/Recompose all stories").invoke();

  

    alert( "All stories of active document were recomposed." );

  

}() )

Regards,
Uwe

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this shortcuts worked for mac InDesign

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IDScript  wrote

…In this case the IDML file is not open in InDesign application, it was not responding.

Regards,

Velladurai

How long did you wait?

Five minutes? Ten minutes? One hour?

It's not unusual that a complex IDML file needs more than thirty minutes to process.

Regards,
Uwe

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Hi Uwe,

Thanks for your suggestion.

I am waiting for more than 10 minutes, but no response from the InDesign application, also we can't exporting the IDML file for each and every stage.

Regards

Velladurai

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Jun 21, 2019 Jun 21, 2019

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Adobe contacted me about my report, "Indents not holding after page break" yesterday to ask for more information and a sample file. The issue described here seems to be the same issue.

I think that the composition engine is having some significant issues, of which this is one. Another is that when using the World-Ready Composer with left-to-right and right-to-left text in the same paragraph, the kerning in the left-to-right text is wrong. Adobe has also contacted me about that issue, and I suspect they think the that the two bugs are both the result of problems with the composition engine.

In my email, I also mentioned to them that when two variables are in the same text box (at least for running heads on master pages), sometimes one of the variables is replaced by the word "Variable." All three of these issues can be corrected temporarily by forcing InDesign to recompose the stories.

For what it's worth, I also told them that when a footnote that spans two pages and that has a rule above the continued portion on the second page is pulled back so that it is entirely on the first page, the rule on the second page is often not removed. I think this is related to the composition engine, but forcing InDesign to recompose the stories does not fix it. Only going into the footnote options and turning the rules for continued footnotes off and then back on fixes it.

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Jul 25, 2019 Jul 25, 2019

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Hi IDScript ,

that bug should be fixed with the latest prerelease version 14.0.3.413 of InDesign CC 2019.

Just tested that with my German version on Windows 10.

If you want to see yourself sign in to Adobe InDesign Prerelease.

I quote from Adobe UserVoice with Abhinav Kaushik (Quality Engineer, Adobe InDesign):

( Changed the build number from 14.0.3.407 to 14.0.3.413 )

1. Go to adobeprerelease.com

2. Log in with your Adobe Id.

3. Once logged in, search for “InDesign CC Prerelease” program in the list.

4. Click on the program to join the same.

5. You can now download the build (14.0.3.413) from “Builds and Plugins” section on the page.

6. The steps for installing the build can be found in the release notes

Regards,
Uwe

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Oct 25, 2023 Oct 25, 2023

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No need for a software update. The issue is that for whatever reason the textbox has a corner radius amount. Go to Object/Corner Options and change the rounded corner back to a square corner. The indent will disappear as it really wasn't an indent at all. It was a positional changed because of the rounded corner infringing.

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Oct 25, 2023 Oct 25, 2023

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Completely different issue.

 This thread was about an applied indent not showing, not an apparent indent when none was applied.

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Oct 25, 2023 Oct 25, 2023

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Understood. The subject line came up in my search and I thought I was in the right place. I don't see that I'm able to delete my comment.

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No worries.

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