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December 7, 2017
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Switching from PDF/x1a to PDF/x-3...what do i need to know?

  • December 7, 2017
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For may years now i have religiously been using PDF/x1a for outputting files to my Harlequin RIP based workflow, and i have now recently been compelled to bring my self up to more modern standards (with great thanks to Bob Levine and Dov Isaacs).

I am now curious as to the benefits of switching from PDF/x1a to PDF/x-3.

The work intended to test this on is all in house created for in house presses, using InDesign CC 2018.

Any pointers or guidance would be greatly appreciated.

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Dave Creamer of IDEAS
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 7, 2017

PDF/X-1a = Transparency flattened and color converted at creation of PDF. User is responsible for creating "good" PDF.

PDF/X-3 = Transparency flattened; color left as is. User is responsible for flattening; RIP is responsible for color conversion. Benefits included more accurate color conversion, especially if using custom printer color profile.

PDF/X-4 = Transparency flattened and color converted in RIP. Benefits include trapping occurs BEFORE flattening happens, and better color conversion.

It really comes down to if your RIP can handle the process. Usually up-to-date RIPs can process files without issue (assuming it is set up properly.) If you haven't upgraded your RIP in a while, you may have problems.

David Creamer: Community Expert (ACI and ACE 1995-2023)
rob day
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 7, 2017

PDF/X-4 = Transparency flattened and color converted in RIP. Benefits include trapping occurs BEFORE flattening happens, and better color conversion.

Just to clarify, X-4 does allow you to make the final conversion on export—you can export a PDF with live transparency where all of the color is DeviceCMYK.

Andy_BazAuthor
Inspiring
December 7, 2017

Kit Specs as follows:

> iMac 5k retina (2015)

> Adobe CC 2018

> Harlequin RIP  V7.1r0 (badged as Momentum RIP from Presstek)

> Dimension 400 Platesetter

> 4 Colour Komori Lithrone 26 press

> 5 Colour Hans Gronhi 525 press

> Epson 7800 Proofer

BobLevine
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 7, 2017

Why X-3? X-4 is the most modern spec.

Andy_BazAuthor
Inspiring
December 7, 2017

I'm open to all suggestions but my previous encounters with Live Transparencies and my RIP have not been great, in that jobs that contain Live Transparencies take forever to RIP, and block the whole workflow queue.

However I am willing to proceed with guidance to remedy such issues.