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Inspiring
February 10, 2019
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Two page document

  • February 10, 2019
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Sorry for this novice question:

I have a two page document that I want to send to my client as a pdf that he can print on a duplex printer. Right now, the second page prints upside down, regardless of how he sets up the printer (i.e., he tells it to flip along the long side).

Is there something I need to do in the InDesign document to make it properly print in the pdf? I have it so that all pages are allowed to shuffle, so that page 1 & 2 appear next to each other, but am not exporting a pdf spread - that would save one page only. Is that what it should be?

Any help would be appreciated.

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    Correct answer saraht87477503

    Just to close this out. The client and I spent time on the phone with RICOH support and they tried printing the pdf as well, and the same thing happened - they couldn't understand it either. They still had the client re-install the drivers, etc and couldn't get it to print correctly. I had another designer check the InDesign file and pdf, but everything was correct. But still wouldn't print correctly.

    So we tried exporting each page as a pdf separately and then combining them as one pdf. That didn't work. Ended up making each page as a separate InDesign document, exported each pdf and combined them into one document and that worked. Clearly there was some glitch and it was a software problem. Hopefully one that won't happen again!

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    Randy Hagan
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    February 11, 2019

    I don't know what to say then.

    I guess you could go to the client's site and solve their problem for them. If you buy their statement that all their PDFs run fine but yours, and you want to take this on yourself, you can try to solve it on their equipment. Hope you can bill the time you spend doing this for your client. While I have had page-flopping problems printing duplex documents directly from InDesign on some devices, by my experience I've never had problems working from PDFs.

    I don't want to cast disparaging thoughts about a client I don't know. From my perspective, though, there's nothing un-professional about providing a job that works for them. If you want to confirm you're the problem and not your client's device, just ship the job to a couple of quick printers/copy shops and see how they handle printing the job. If you keep getting bad results, maybe you should take this on yourself. But I strongly suspect you're going to find that's not the case.

    Inspiring
    February 11, 2019

    Ok, thanks.

    saraht87477503AuthorCorrect answer
    Inspiring
    February 12, 2019

    Just to close this out. The client and I spent time on the phone with RICOH support and they tried printing the pdf as well, and the same thing happened - they couldn't understand it either. They still had the client re-install the drivers, etc and couldn't get it to print correctly. I had another designer check the InDesign file and pdf, but everything was correct. But still wouldn't print correctly.

    So we tried exporting each page as a pdf separately and then combining them as one pdf. That didn't work. Ended up making each page as a separate InDesign document, exported each pdf and combined them into one document and that worked. Clearly there was some glitch and it was a software problem. Hopefully one that won't happen again!

    Randy Hagan
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    February 11, 2019

    I don't know if this is any consolation, but this isn't really your fault.

    Different printers handle duplex printing in different ways. There's a remote chance, depending on the device your client is using, that there is a software toggle or some type of hardware setting which can change how that client's device prints. Or not. If it's billable, or it's worth the extra points you'll score with your client to try and figure it out for them, you may be able to fix it on their end.

    But the easier way to handle it is to flop one of the pages yourself and then see if it prints right:

    1) Go to one of the pages, and make sure your Selection/Arrow tool is selected in the Toolbar.

    2) Press Command/Control+A (depending on whether you're working on a Mac or Windows system, respectively) to select everything on the page.

    3) Go to the Control Panel. In the Selection Proxy (1) make sure the center dot is selected. Then click on the downward pointing chevron to the right of the Rotation edit box (2) and select 180°. This literally stands all the information for that page on its head.

    4) With all the page elements selected, if needed, move them left or right to align on the page the way you'd like. Save the InDesign document and create a PDF for your client.

    Let your client know what you've done, explaining that this will, for proofing or production purposes, allow them to print the job the way they want. This is a workaround, but if you let your client know the situation and everyone gets the end result desired, that's not a bad thing. Sometimes it's easier to raise the bridge than it is to lower the water ...

    Hope this helps,

    Randy Hagan

    Inspiring
    February 11, 2019

    Thanks @RandyHagan the problem is that the client knows how to toggle the page (flip long side) and says that other pdfs print correctly. So what I am wondering is if that is true, then where the problem could lie. The InDesign is just a 2 page layout and a regular export for print and the pdf seems fine. If the client knows how to use the printer, then where is the problem. Flipping the page doesn't seem like a very professional solution if I want to do more work with him.