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TYPE 1 Fonts

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February 24, 2022
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Very concerned about Type 1 font being disabled. I work on hundreds of files that contain these fonts. Adobe should provide a seamless font swop out of likeness fonts once prompted fonts are missing. Otherwise fonts within documents will reflow causing a catastrophe. Please advise.

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Mike Witherell

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You have some QC work ahead of you. Even if you swap a same OT font for the old T1 of the same name, it will most likely trigger a reflow of text.

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dalev39076785Author

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TY Mike. My concern exactly!

Bevi Chagnon - PubCom.com

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In January 2000 — 22 years ago — the entire computer industry formally migrated to OpenType / Unicode fonts. Operating systems, software, and digital media all converted. Adobe's PostScript/Type 1 fonts were no longer available after that date.

The benefits you've missed for the past 22 years:

Extended character set. Type 1 fonts are limited to around 216 glyphs on a font. Although that covers most traditional ASCII characters, the fonts don't have a full set of punctuation marks, special symbols, foreign accented characters, math/STEM symbols. Most OpenType fonts have between 1,000 – 3,000 glyphs on one font.
Cross platform use. Not just between Macs and Windows systems, but also with HTML websites, EPUBs, and all forms of digital media ... and traditional print, too. PostScript Type 1 fonts work only for printed documents.
Worldwide accessibility. One third of the world's population has an impairment or disability that hinders their use of computer technology ... and access to billions of documents, from textbooks to marketing brochures. International accessibility standards require Unicode / OpenType fonts to guarantee full accessibility to everyone.
New font technologies. Variable fonts are just one of the newest technologies that help us designers with our projects. That tech isn't available for PostScript Type 1 fonts. (So cool, I get to determine the exact font weight I need for a project. Love it!)

Adobe should provide a seamless font swop out of likeness fonts once prompted fonts are missing.
By @dalev39076785

Most of Adobe's font library from pre-2000 was converted to OpenType fonts and is available through Adobe Fonts, right within InDesign or at https://fonts.adobe.com/. All free with your Creative Cloud subscription.

In addition to that method, InDesign automatically scans your document and your system's fonts whenever you open a document. Any missing Type 1 fonts are flagged, valid Adobe OpenType fonts are suggested, and a click of your mouse will automatically swap out the old for the new.

Seriously, what's your complaint?

You didn't get enough memos about this industry-wide change?

Over the past 22 years?

|    Bevi Chagnon   |  Designer, Trainer, & Technologist for Accessible Documents ||    PubCom |    Classes & Books for Accessible InDesign, PDFs & MS Office |

Conrad_C

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@Bevi Chagnon - PubCom.com wrote:

In addition to that method, InDesign automatically scans your document and your system's fonts whenever you open a document. Any missing Type 1 fonts are flagged, valid Adobe OpenType fonts are suggested, and a click of your mouse will automatically swap out the old for the new.

Yes... @dalev39076785, that is the “seamless font swap” requested in your original post. It has already been built into InDesign for many years, and combined with the fonts included through Adobe Fonts that you can swap to, all of the tools are already in place for you to swap out your fonts as you asked.

It won’t be without some manual intervention, especially if unusual fonts were used that don’t have substitutes for Adobe Fonts, or if the replacement fonts have slightly different metrics. But this situation was anticipated long ago and the tools put in place to handle it.

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dalev39076785Author

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Thank you Bevi for your reply. Helpful!

As a point of reference, a large percentage of InDesign files I recieve from agencies are still littered with Type 1 fonts. I recieve the nofitfication below.

Hoping this conversation is moot and will not require a relow of all text each time I open a legancy InDesign files next year. Cheers!

BobLevine

Community Expert

You have been given years to address this. Opentype has been around for more 20 years.

Adobe is not going to replace your fonts though some may be available through the Adobe Fonts service.

Nancy OShea

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Nancy OShea

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Which software are you using?

If you want to keep using legacy fonts, do so at your own risk and revert to previous software versions.

I don't think it's possible for Adobe to swap fonts for you. That's a design choice only you can make.

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

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dalev39076785Author

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Hello Nancy and thank you for your response. Currently running macOS Monterey 12.2 with Font Book v10.0. If I understand correctly, the Type 1 fonts that have been embebeded into legacy InDesign files can reamian as long as I use a different Font application? What does Adobe recommend? This is obviously not a one off issue but impacts every agency who's been building layouts with these fonts. Pleasew advise.

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