Type-1 Fonts

[Christopher3440329747o5]

Why on God's earth would Adobe drop being able to use Type-1 fonts?

WOW! Really?

Any sollutions? I mean after 30 years of T1 fonts - I hope they have a solution.

[James Gifford—NitroPress]

Maybe because the tech was 30 years old. Worked with any WordStar files lately? Lotus 1-2-3? dBASE III?

There are excellent technical reasons font data formats and encoding moved on. And Adobe did (rather annoyingly) announce the sunset date for years, every time a doc with a T1 font in it was opened. "Welcome to the pah-ty, pal!" 🙂

The solution is to update all your fonts to the (also quite mature) OTF standard. You can download new ones and convert any other formats with font tools.

[Christopher3440329747o5]

Well I do work with PainMaker I mean InDesign so YES! Also PS/AI are 30 years old. 

[Willi Adelberger]

No, are not. All programs from today were new written and coded to be used in modern systems. Photoshop and Illustrator and also InDesign became a complete new technological background. Adobe announced in the late 1990s that T1 will end in the future and that user should move on and change to OTF fonts.

The same with EPS, don't use it anymore, use PDF/X-4 or AI in the future.

[Christopher3440329747o5]

Gotta love Gen Zzzzzzzz

[James Gifford—NitroPress]

He says, to a bunch of Boomers. 😄

But that's okay. We see those who bought a copy of something in 1989 and complain that it doesn't work on the 2004 iMac their neighbor gave them all the time.

[Peter Spier]

The solution is to update all your fonts to the (also quite mature) OTF standard. You can download new ones and convert any other formats with font tools.

By @James Gifford—NitroPress

Don't want to burst anyone's bubble here, but before blithely converting fonts to OT, check the EULA. Many, if not most, prohibit this.

[James Gifford—NitroPress]

Everyone who has the EULA for the fonts they acquired in 1988, raise your hand. 🙂

Point well made, but Adobe is just going to have to reap the whirlwind on this product choice.

[Christopher3440329747o5]

Oh and lets get rid of PANTONE colors because there is not printing industry anymore that needs them. 

WOW - lets just bring back the chizzle and stone tablet. 

[Steve Werner]

Pantone just wants more money. The Pantone colors are definitely available. You just need to pay a subscription to have them appear in your menus.

[rob day]

Hi @Christopher3440329747o5 , Apple has also dropped support for Type 1 fonts. 

Pantone books still work with InDesign, the only change is Adobe no longer installs the .acb files for you, but you can install them manually by copying them from an older version.

[rob day]

The .acb files can be downloaded here if you don't have an older application installed or archived

https://github.com/Autocrit/Pantone-color-libraries

[Christopher3440329747o5]

BIG THANKS! I appreciate it.

[rob day]

 Everyone who has the EULA for the fonts they acquired in 1988, raise your hand. 🙂

I'm sure I have one-- finding it might be a problem. I've used TransType and it doesn't alter the outlines and keeps the version number, so as long as I don't sell or share the font it seems like fair use to me 

[Christopher3440329747o5]

I downed FontConverter from the Apple Store and so I will try that. I loved Fontographer and uesed it for 1000 years but thanks to it not running on Sonoma - oh well just another great app gone!

[James Gifford—NitroPress]

I'd think you'd appreciate Sonoma for running so far ahead of the curve that most major software packages are still trying to achieve compatibility and stability six months later. Future-proofing, and all that. 🙂

[Christopher3440329747o5]

Yes let's develope an OS that no software runs on or at least effiently. 

Kinda like having a Tesla and trying to charge it in the winter. HAHA. There but not there.

[rob day]

It’s not just Adobe or Apple everyone has abandoned T1 font development—all of the major font vendors stopped selling T1 fonts years ago. The more apt analogy would be trying to find a car that runs on leaded gas.

[BobLevine]

When you find yourself in a hole, you should stop digging.

I stopped using Type 1 fonts many years ago. Opentype has been around for about 25 years now. Adobe warned of the cut off several years ago and one of the reasons was that operating systems were going to stop supporting them.

[Christopher3440329747o5]

Ya try working in the printing industry where your clients have not upgraded and are still using T1 fonts and so then what? You need to either have them convert the fonts and resubmit files at which case they go somewhere else possibly or you have to do it and possibly cause reflow in which case you are liable OR HAVE AN OLD MACHINE THAT CAN PROCESS TYPE 1 FONTS hence - WHY UPGRADE?

[Peter Spier]

T1 fonts can still be used on older versions of InDesign (and in PDF). If your clients are submitting packaged .indd files with T1 fonts you should be opening them in the same version of InDesign used to create them to avoid text reflow.

[Christopher3440329747o5]

So wait - if I open up old files in the new InDesign - I can have reflow? Oh this is GREAT! Wow - I have never been happier with upgrades. 

[BobLevine]

So wait - if I open up old files in the new InDesign - I can have reflow? Oh this is GREAT! Wow - I have never been happier with upgrades. 

By @Christopher3440329747o5

Only if you edit them. OTOH, should you open an IDML file from a different version, it's entirely possible the document may reflow.

[BobLevine]

Or...don't send native files for print. It's been a bad idea for a long time. Send PDFs for print.

[Christopher3440329747o5]

You don't know the printing industry. Not all printing companies only take PDF. Some actually require native so we can correct errors the designers make like dropping in PNG images or using PANTONE colors for a 4c project.

Bleeds are almost always an issue as snapping to fold lines. Not to mention RGB/JPEG UPC codes. The list goes on.