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Grundoon Groundhog
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October 22, 2023
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Undesired fonts still appear

  • October 22, 2023
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I've asked this question before, and nothing works. I am using some but not all of the Garamond Premier family: the Medium weights, not the Regular weights. The Regular weight is not activated. Yet it is the first font to appear in the Character menu when the Garamond Premier family is selected, and appears in the drop down menu. This adds up to a huge waste of time. Why does it happen? How do I stop it?

 

And once again, why is there no scroll bar in the Creative Cloud fonts menu? Maybe if we ask enough times Adobe will add it.

 

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    No. I don't understand what you mean. I'm not able to take a screenshot of the entire list as it extends past the bottom of my screen. So if I activated even more fonts a scroll bar would appear? If I open a family within the list to check on weights the list is presumably even longer. No scrollbar.


    So if I activated even more fonts a scroll bar would appear?

     

    Yes. I’m on OSX and there is a scroll bar, which is made visible via the mouse scroll wheel, or with the Apple mouse the center scrolling area:

     

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    James Gifford—NitroPress
    James Gifford—NitroPress
    Legend
    October 22, 2023

    Like Willi, I am a little confused. To start with, I can't find an Adobe environment fonts list without a scroll bar, starting with the 'Added Fonts' list in the CC manager.

     

    Fonts are also not always completely independent entities; there may be technical reasons why you cannot add, say, simply Garamond Bold to your activated list without the base font being included (even as a phantom, in brackets). (Something like overall font/face mapping comes to mind; ID etc. may not be able to use some faces without the anchor, base face being present.) I don't typically load selected fonts from any one family and can't really think of a reason to do so for most work.

     

    If what you are trying to do is get Medium to come up as the default or only face listed under Garamond, I supposed your question makes sense, but then I'd have to echo Willi's additional questions about using Styles; I don't think I go to a font menu more than five or six times in any project, even a complex one. If your workflow has you repeatedly selecting a font, it's either a very unusual project or you are perhaps doing too much spot/override formatting.

     

    If you can clarify a little, there's probably an answer, although I suspect you're not going to like it much. 🙂

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    Grundoon GroundhogAuthor
    Inspiring
    October 22, 2023

    Thanks for your reply.

    Here is a screenshot of my fonts list. There is no scroll bar. I have selected "always show scroll bar" in my system preferences.

    I am working on a magazine with a wide variety of contributors who use a wide variety of fonts which I have to convert to the desired version of Garamond. So when I use 'find/replace" the  'default" seems to be the undesired version that I have not activated. Surely it could rest in the background?

    Is it possible to delete the "Noto" fonts from the system without harming the fonts one actual uses? I assumed they are there for technical reasons (why else all these Burmese fonts would appear when only Burmese people would presumably use them I've never understood).

    How does one create a "Favorites" list and set it as the display default?

    James Gifford—NitroPress
    James Gifford—NitroPress
    Legend
    October 23, 2023

    Actually, in looking at my CC fonts list, I can't figure out why these few are even there

     

    If you log into https://fonts.adobe.com and click the Manage Fonts>Open Creative Cloud App, are there any Active Fonts listed?

     

    I’m not sure when the Manage Fonts change happened (I could be missing something), but you used to Activate/Deactivate from inside of the Adobe Type web site, now only web fonts get activated from AdobeType. It’s not intuitive, but if you are activating Cloud fonts for the desktop app use, you have to get used to the new activation method from the CC app.

     


    I don't think I've ever used any of the Adobe font 'systems'; I have a vast local library and a good manager, and clients have provided me with a few special or unusual fonts when needed. So no, I don't seem to have any formal added fonts, and only one of those that shows up in my CC/Added Fonts pane is one provided by a client.

     

    None of this is of any real concern to me. It's just... odd.

    Willi Adelberger
    Community Expert
    Willi AdelbergerCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    October 22, 2023

    Do you work with paragraph styles?

    Do you work with Character Styles?

    How are they defined?

    Do you use Nested, Line, Drop Character or GREP styles?

    From which menu without scroll bar do you talk? Screenshot please!

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    Grundoon GroundhogAuthor
    Inspiring
    October 24, 2023

    Yes I use paragraph and character styles. They are individually defined within their menus. Yes I use drop and nested styles.

    Here again is a screen shot of the added CC fonts. No scroll bar.

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