Using layers on multiple pages in Indesign

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Hi there,
I am working on two identical maps on 2 seperate pages in Indesign with multiple layers for each part of the map. ie Legend, labels, heading etc.
If I want the page 1 map to contain no labels, but the page 2 map to have 10 labels, if I switch off the 'label layer,' it applies the layer change to both pages, however I only want the change to apply to page 2 of the Indesign document only. Is there a way I can turn the layers on and off to apply to one page of the Indesign document only please?
Thank you!

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Hello @Emile Nowak,

 

Re: If I want the page 1 map to contain no labels, but the page 2 map to have 10 labels, if I switch off the 'label layer,'it applies the layer change to both pages, however I only want the change to apply to page 2 of the Indesign document only.

 

indesign layers are global to the document not to any specific page. Just leave the Label layer on, if Page1 has unwanted labels you'll need to delete them.

 

Regards,

Mike

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Dupe the label layer and name them Map 1 and Map 2. Delete the appropriate labels from each layer.

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Thanks so much Mike, the problem is that the customer may want to put the labels back into the design at a later stage so would rather just switch them on and off as we are up to  draft 16 and then we could go back to draft 5 so would prefer not to delete them. Is this possible?

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Hello @Emile Nowak,

 

In that case I would duplicate the label layer and rename it to "Page-1 labels", you will still need to go back and delete the labels on page 1 from the original "labels" layer and vice versa for the new layer "Page-1 labels" for page 2.

I hope this makes sense.

 

Regards,

Mike

 

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No--layers are global in InDesign and Illustrator. 

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I know this seems counter-intuitive — that's a fancy way to say it doesn't make a lick of sense — but sometimes the easiest way to get things off a layer is to create yet another layer.

 

Let's simplify the example and put your two maps on a single reader's spread, pages 2 and 3. This will work the same if the two map pages are widely separated; it makes things a little easier to explain and much easier to see if you want to practice this before you do it to your book. The important things to remember is that Layers are global across your document, but elements placed in the document are Page specific.

 

  1. If you can see both pages 2 and 3 in your document, you're using the Facing Pages view. Go to the File>Document Setup... menu command and turn off the Facing Pages check box, then click the OK button. This way, we're set to only affect a page at a time.
  2. Go to page 2. Turn off all layers except the label layer. Get your Arrow/Selection Tool. Press Cmd/Ctrl+A, depending on whether you are using a Mac or a Windows system, respectively, to select everything on the label layer on page 2. Or if you prefer using your pull down menus, choose Edit>Select All.
  3. Press Cmd/Ctrl+X to cut all the information off from the label layer on page 2 and place it in your computer's clipboard. This works the same way if you choose the Edit>Cut menu command.
  4. Now go to your Layers panel, and create a new layer you can name Page 2 labels. Make sure that this new layer is selected in the panel.
  5. On your Mac, use the keyboard shortcut Cmd+Opt+Shift+V. If you're using a Windows system, your keyboard shortcut would be Ctrl+Alt+Shift+V. If you want to use the pull down menus, the command Edit>Paste in Place. This action will place all those elements you had on the label layer and will place them in exactly the same position on the new Page 2 labels layer.

 

Now you can turn on and off the label elements on Page 2 labels layer without affecting anything else left on the labels layer.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Randy

 

 

 

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Thanks so much for your time explaining Randy - much appreciated 🙂

 

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Where the entire layer will turn off - the layers in the drop down are page relevant

 

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Map Layer Turned off

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Drop down layers turned off

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You will see that the Layer named Map Label 2 is different than that of Page 1.

Renaming the 'sublayers'

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And you don't have to rename layers

It works with the standard name - I was just doing it to see visually the differences

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So where the layer visibility affects all pages.

If you turn off the 'sub layers' via the drop down arrow in the Layers Panel - you can turn off individual elements per page within that layer.

 

 

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Thanks so very much Eugene - that's so helpful and I appreciate your time! 🙂

 

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