Version 4 ICC Profiles were converted to version 2 ICC Profiles during PDF Export.

New Here ,
Feb 26, 2019 Feb 26, 2019

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Please help.  I've tried cleaning up doc, no errors present; I've tried saving a copy; i've tried saving, closing reopening indesign and exporting, still fails.  What is going on.  How can i even find what profiles are the issue?

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Community Expert , Feb 26, 2019 Feb 26, 2019

Usually that means there is a placed object causing the error. Try exporting the first half, then the second half and keep splitting the page range until you find the offending page.

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New Here , Feb 18, 2021 Feb 18, 2021

Hey I struggled with this for a bit. Went through the advice other people gave and still had issues. Some of my ICC desginations were just blank in my links panel so I couldn't figure out if those were tripping me up. Simplest solution for me was to go to export and when you get the dialog export box go to Output on the left hand side, you'll see an option for Color Conversion: click on the drop down box and select Convert to Destination. Hope this helps. 

 

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New Here ,
May 16, 2021 May 16, 2021

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ERROR SOLVED. The color issue is from iPhone photos. When taking them into Photoshop and resaving them, in the last window when you save as psd, jpeg, etc. at the very bottom there's a check box that says "Embed Color Profile" and if it's checked "Display P3" it will generate that error in INDESIGN when exporting the pdf.

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New Here ,
May 23, 2021 May 23, 2021

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MsECD, Thank You. A god-send. How in the hell are we supposed to know all this stuff? How and why you know this stuff is mind baffeling... but I'm glad you do and were nice enough to share.

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Engaged ,
Jul 28, 2021 Jul 28, 2021

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Thanks, @M5ECD ! Your solution worked.

 

Out of curioisty, what does unchecking Display P3 do?

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Jul 28, 2021 Jul 28, 2021

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Out of curioisty, what does unchecking Display P3 do?

 

It saves the file with no RGB profile embedded, which you actually do not want to do. The better approach would be to open the iPhone image and do a convert to profile with the destination set to a large gamut RGB editing space like AdobeRGB and then save with the profile embedded. 

 

Display P3 is a version 4 profile. You could also leave the Display P3 profile embedded and ignore the export warning

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Engaged ,
Jul 28, 2021 Jul 28, 2021

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Thanks, Rob. So this message only occurs on images that were taken with an iPhone? 

 

So here's my problem. The file that's creating the warning was provided to me as a .png—probably because my client needed a transparent background. Unfortunately, they don't have the original .jpeg. In looking at the file overview, it's 2208 x 1242 pixels at 72 ppi. And yes, I now see the Display P3 color profile. I really don't like using .pngs for a print project, but it's all I have to work with. 

 

So far, I'm only getting this warning message when creating a PDF using the InDesign 16.3.2 High Quality Print PDF preset, which is not editable. When I use my uPrinting preset I don't have a problem because the Color Conversion is set to Convert to Destination.

 

Fortunately, the problematic image is printing small. Just 3.5" x 2" high. Is there anything I need to be aware of or set before I send this job to my printer?

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

 

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Jul 29, 2021 Jul 29, 2021

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Thanks, Rob. So this message only occurs on images that were taken with an iPhone? ... And yes, I now see the Display P3 color profile. I really don't like using .pngs for a print project, but it's all I have to work with.

 

It happens when there are version 4.0 ICC profiles in use. You can open the PNG in Photoshop and do an Edit>Convert to Profile.. with the Destination set to AdobeRGB—that will preserve the PNG’s color appearance. Resave the .png as a .PSD with the AdobeRGB profile embedded, and that should prevent the warning unless you have another version 4 profile in the ID document.

 

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Jul 29, 2021 Jul 29, 2021

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If I'm going to print this on a sheetfed press, wouldn't I convert to the Display P3 profile to something like Working CMYK - U.S. Sheetfed Coated v2, or is that handled by InDesign?

 

Thanks!

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Jul 30, 2021 Jul 30, 2021

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You could make the conversion to US Sheetfed in Photoshop, but your InDesign CMYK profile assignment should also be US Sheetfed Coated, so the conversion of all RGB color can happen during an InDesign PDF export by setting the Destination to US Sheetfed.

 

The advantage of leaving images in your preferred RGB editing space is, the output CMYK destination can change (i.e., a new printer wants GRACol Coated) and you can avoid the extra CMYK-to-CMYK conversion at export or output

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Engaged ,
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That worked perfectly. Thanks, Rob!

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New Here ,
May 05, 2022 May 05, 2022

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These darn pictures were what was messing up my file. Thank you, Thank you THANK YOU

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Explorer ,
Jul 30, 2021 Jul 30, 2021

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heres what did it for me (only solution that neither compromised colour not resolution):
in the export window go to output - color conversion: convert to destination - (IMPORTANT) destination: sRGB (etc)
since i want to keep the rgb profile (the pdf is only to be viewed on screens)

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New Here ,
Jan 11, 2022 Jan 11, 2022

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Thank you AMELIA5EE7! That worked for me and it was a life-saver! 

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New Here ,
Apr 25, 2022 Apr 25, 2022

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I found that this issue occurred when I placed files directly from a multipaginated PDF into the INDD file. So my solve was to export the desired pages as PNGs and place those instead, which worked. Not sure if this would happen with other placed files - like PSDs, etc. But PNGs / JPGs worked. 

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New Here ,
Apr 29, 2022 Apr 29, 2022

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Yo this was super helpful thanks homie

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May 23, 2022 May 23, 2022

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Hi together,

had also this case with an image that had the "Display P3" profile.

It was converted to version 2 when I exported e.g. with the default [PDF/X-3:2002] PDF export setting, because InDesign tries to maintain the RGB data of the image and has obviously some issues with the version 4 entry of the profile.

 

The message is no error.

 

It's just a reminder, that the profile was converted to version 2.

No damage is done, I think.

 

Acrobat Pro's Object Inspector in Output Preview of category Print Production is listing the applied profile as "Modified Display P3":

 

AcrobatPro-ObjectInspector-Modified Display P3.PNG

 

FWIW:

In a different workflow where all RGB data is converted to CMYK during the export process the version 4 profile is no issue at all, because InDesign does not try to write it to the exported PDF.

 

CLARIFICATION:

This is only true if the output intent is a version 2 profile like my ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) profile.

See Rob's reply below where a version 4 CMYK profile (e.g. Coated GRACol 2013) is used. Then the message comes up as well.

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Professional )

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May 23, 2022 May 23, 2022

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where all RGB data is converted to CMYK during the export process the version 4 profile is no issue at all,

 

Hi Uwe, I still see the warning in version 16.4 when exporting to PDF/X-1a (all CMYK) and the Assigned document CMYK profile and Output Intent are a version 4 CMYK profile (e.g. Coated GRACol 2013). It has no affect on the output Separation values they convert as expected on the Export, so I ignore the warning:

 

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May 23, 2022 May 23, 2022

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Interesting to see this, Rob!

The last time I tried this it was no issue and there was no message.

Tried again with a PDF/X-3 with Convert to Destination (Preserve Numbers) like that:

INDD-ExportToPDF-X-3-ConvertColorsToCMYK(MaintainValues).PNG

"CMYK-Arbeitsfarbraum" traslates to "CMYK Working Space" in option "Target" and option "Output Intent Profile Name".

 

Also tried this with a PDF/X-1a export preset like that. This time with "Target" Document-CMYK - ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI):

INDD-ExportToPDF-X-1a-ConvertColorsToCMYK(MaintainValues).PNG

 

Well, in both cases I had no message that a ICC profile version 4 was converted to version 2.

 

Rob, I'll send you my files in a private message later…

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Professional )

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May 23, 2022 May 23, 2022

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All my tests done with InDesign 17.2.1.105 on Windows 10.

I also will run them on InDesign 16.4 and report back.

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Professional )

 

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May 23, 2022 May 23, 2022

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Did you double-check that the profile is version 4? My Apple ColorSync Utility has ISO Coated v2 300% as version 2.4

 

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It shows GRACol 2013 as version 4.2:

 

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May 23, 2022 May 23, 2022

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"Output Intent are a version 4 CMYK profile (e.g. Coated GRACol 2013)."

 

Oh boy, I have to read your posts more precisely.

You are right, of course!

 

In your case the output intent is in fact a version 4 profile and yes, one will get this message as well!

Thanks for the clarification, Rob!

 

( I thought about the placed image's "Display P3" profile with an export to ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI). )

 

Thanks,
Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Professional )

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May 23, 2022 May 23, 2022

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The Display P3 profile also triggers the warning, but the question is should we care? It looks to me like you can make the same CMYK conversion to ISO Coated v2 on an Export as you can by doing it directly in Photoshop. Here I’ve set the Destination profile, Conversion Intent, and BPC to match in both apps:

 

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May 24, 2022 May 24, 2022

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Rob said: "The Display P3 profile also triggers the warning, but the question is should we care?"

 

Hi Rob,

I don't care at all. With all my tests, like you, I see no difference when PhotoShop converts an image with a Display P3 profile to CMYK compared to InDesign's export using the same destination profile. Or if Acrobat is showing the numbers in a PDF/X-3 file where the profile is named as "Modified Display P3".

 

Thanks,
Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Professional )

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