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Canned_Pug-Ng0EYk
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March 31, 2011
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Viewing "Actual Size"

  • March 31, 2011
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HI,

I've always wondered why, if I set the screen view to "Actual Size" or even 100%, that if measured against a ruler put up to the monitor, it does not correspond. Is there a view or setting that can do this without me zooming in or zooming out and measureing with a ruler every time? (I'm feeling this might be so simple I'm going to once again be embarrassed....

Thanks.

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davidblatner
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 6, 2011

Great thread! We discussed this in podcast 4, many moons ago, and included a one line script from Dave Saunders:  http://indesignsecrets.com/indesignsecrets-004.php

John Hawkinson
Inspiring
April 6, 2011

There's some funny irony with us posting the long scripts verbatim and Dave's 1-line script being inside a .zip file. Here it is for comparison:

try {app.layoutWindows[0].zoomPercentage = 140 } catch (e) {};

Of course it's short since it doesn't do any math and hardcodes to 140%.

davidblatner
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 6, 2011

That is funny. (technically the reason we used zip was to force download of the jsx file.)  It's so much easier to hold a ruler to the screen and figure the proper resolution than to do the math.

March 31, 2011

Zoom something of a known width and measure it with a ruler until you get true 100%

Make note of the zoom amount (131% for my setup)

Open a text file and add this code:

try {app.layoutWindows[0].zoomPercentage = 131 } catch (e) {};

Save as Zoom131.jsx (or whatever name.jsx) into your scripts folder

Edit keyboard shortcuts to set Ctrl-1 to run your script (if you want 131% instead of 100%)

Duplicate/edit/rename script for 200%, 50% etc and add shortcuts if desired...

March 31, 2011

This has been discussed several times in the forum. You might search for one of those threads.


Canned_Pug-Ng0EYk
Participating Frequently
March 31, 2011

i did try "viewing size' and "actual view" with 0 results not sure

what else to ask...will look further

April 2, 2011

Peter said 72 POINTS per inch. In Photoshop, when you view at 100% you see a 1:1 relationship between screen pixels at the curent screen resolution and the image pixels, so each image pixels uses only one display pixel. At 400% you use four display pixels for each image pixel, and so forth. Rob may have explained it better, but ID measures in points, and at 100% view, you have a 1:1 relationship between display pixels and points.


Peter,

When I think 72 points per inch, I think pica points, and that is not what we're talking about here. No one uses ppi in reference to points. Points are discreet values. We are talking about resolutions. So I am legitimately confused by your reply.

While Photoshop considers 100% to be a 1:1 relationship as you describe, the discussion here is about 100% in reference to the rulers. If your resolution in Photoshop is 72 ppi, a 3" square image will not display at 3" at 100% -- but it will at 96 ppi (if that is your monitors resolution).

Image display of the rulers, that's the crucial point. But what do you mean by ID measures in points? It has to generate its display based on an assumption of pixels. And there is no reason that the formula it uses need be hard wired to an archaic standard.

Frankly, I'm starting to wonder how relevant 72 ppi is even to the future of the web. Browsers display per your systems actual resolution don't they? And they are becoming more adjustable and user customizable. I don't even know if the current resolutions of monitors are optimal. Maybe in the next 10 years the average monitor will be 150 ppi.