Weird line breaks

[saxtonstudio]

I'm really not understanding why some of the lines in the endnotes section are moving to the next line when clearly there's room on its current line. If I delete to bring the next line up, there is no space between words, and hitting the space button just returns it to the next line.

The attached screenshot shows that I have hidden characters shown, looking for a clue. My wildest guess is that it has something to do with hidden instructions in the endnotes numbering system (which, as you can see, are indicated by brackets at beginning and end of each section.)

Help please.

[Peter Spier]

In the applied paragraph style, under Indents and Spacing, see if Balance Ragged Lines is checked...

[saxtonstudio]

It was not. So I checked it and it made the entire endnotes look more balanced (basicallyignoring the right margin) but did not solve the words falling onto the next line when they clearly would fit.

[Mike Witherell]

What are your Hyphenation and Justification settings in your paragraph style?

[saxtonstudio]

No hyphenation. Justification attached. Note that this doesn't happen when the endnotes are just text / not connected to actual note within text. Am also attaching endnote settings in case yiu see something amiss there.

[Brad @ Roaring Mouse]

Actually, in this case, change the Composer to Adobe Single Line Composer. This will prevent ID from even trying to balance the line ends.

 

[Joel Cherney · Accepted solution]

Well, we can take guesses at what is causing your issue. It might be faster if you were to share your document, that way we could open it up and figure out what was going on without taking potshots at it. 

That being said: if you put in a discretionary line break (a shift+enter) after the close quote after "[...] Money Worries" in number 13, what happens? 

If you turn on the World-Ready Composer on these entries (there's a dropdown to select this in the Justification dialog, Ctrl-Alt-Shift-J, which is coincidentally one of the places where Mike Witherell wants to send you), does it change?

[saxtonstudio]

1.The discretionary shift+enter line break worked there on #13 (and a couple instances, but not all). Oy vey!

2. World-Ready Composer didn't change anything.

3. I guess I could share if that would help!... it's a large doc?

4. Let me see if I can understand what Will is talking about below...

[saxtonstudio]

Not sure where to put this so everyone who helped sees this... but I think I've got it. Between the discretionary line break (Joel) and the insert non-breaking space (Willi), I was able to finagle things into place. THANK YOU to everyone who replied – there were new things to learn about, and whether they worked or not in this case, I appreciated your efforts! It's still rather baffling why this happened at all – maybe there was something in the original word doc settings that messed things up, but it also seemed related to the endnote connection, as none of the weird line breaks happened when the endnote numbers were unaffiliated. (Weird, right?) In any event, it's looking better now, and I thank you all.

[James Gifford—NitroPress]

Victory is always sweet.

Yes, importing from Word can often bring phantom weirdness to content, sometimes things that can be found in deep style settings and sometimes stuff that doesn't exist but has effects anyway. End notes in particular seem to drag a lot of baggage and garbage with them. In hindsight, there was probably one simple thing to do... but figuring it out can be impossible except in retrospect.

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[Otto29131575ipix]

sir did your problem get solved or not, if got solved then please do share with me how you did that.

[Willi Adelberger · Accepted solution]

• Use in the dates non-breaking space.
• For the URL use a character style with No Language

[saxtonstudio]

Willi, I'm not sure where to go for these settings?

[Willi Adelberger]

Non-breaking space is found in Menu > Type > Insert Space > Non breaking space or its shortcut equivalent (it is different depending on OS and keyboard language.

1. Create a character style
2. In Advanced Character style select Laguage: [No Language]
3. Aplly it to every URL

It could be done automatically via GREP Style.

[saxtonstudio]

Non-breaking space helped for some of the stubborn ones, thank you.

[James Gifford—NitroPress]

Make sure the text frame has no internal offset spacing (select frame, Ctrl-B).

This is a tiny bit of a hack, but try applying -5% tracking to the style. Sometimes just that tiny squeeze gets around too-stubborn spacing issues.

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[saxtonstudio]

Yes, I'm a big fan of the tracking for tight fits – but these aren't remotely tight! 

No internal offsets (inser spacing?) shown.

[James Gifford—NitroPress]

Less something that works for a sensible reason than just "squeezing in" past some setting that doesn't want to play well. I run into this kind of frustrating text behavior too often, for no explicable reason, so I don't feel too bad about using a magic hack to fix things. 🙂

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