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Mike Witherell
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June 11, 2019
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What does the letter P stand for?

  • June 11, 2019
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Hey gang,

In the rotation icon in the Control Panel of InDesign, what does the letter "P" stand for?

Mike wants to know!

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    Barb Binder
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    June 19, 2019

    Not Phlipped.

    ~Barb

    ~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
    Inspiring
    June 19, 2019

    ​P ​- position

    Why "P"?

    Is not symmetrical. It helps to visualize "portrait". "landscape" and flipped.

    I think it's this.

    Steve Werner
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    June 19, 2019

    I agree. Which is why Danny Whitehead wrote above: "Set every capital letter of the alphabet in Photoshop, create all 8 iterations of rotation and flipping for each, then gaussian blur them all, increasing the radius until they're all indistinguishable. The last one wins. I bet it'll be P."

    Mike Witherell
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    June 12, 2019

    Jeffrey, I'm looking for the definitive historical origin. I actually don't know the answer. But I'm in the business of answering questions for students (and myself, as a long-time practitioner of this page layout art).

    I like the theory that it comes from the P in the print dialog box imagery. The word Portrait sounds likely, but I wish we could trace the origin, and know for sure.

    Mike Witherell
    Peter Villevoye
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    June 12, 2019
    Danny Whitehead.
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    June 12, 2019

    My guess is nothing. It will have been inherited from the classic page setup icon, where maybe the fact that it's the first letter of 'page' was relevant, but I think the main reason the capital P was chosen is because when it's flipped and rotated in different ways, they look particularly distinct from one another.

    BobLevine
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    June 12, 2019

    That's just crazy talk.

    Steve Werner
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    June 12, 2019

    I'll vote for Danny's guess.

    Mike Witherell
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    June 12, 2019

    I had no idea how obscured this is turning out to be!!!  

    Mike Witherell
    manal shanableh
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    June 12, 2019

    it shows the direction of flipped object, see my sample. flipped.

    and this one: not flipped.

    Derek Cross
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    June 11, 2019

    Surely it stands for Paper

    Inspiring
    June 19, 2019

    or P​osition...

    Community Expert
    June 11, 2019

    Pivot

    Mike Witherell
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    June 11, 2019

    Come on, guys, dig deep! What does it stand for?

    Mike Witherell
    Derek Cross
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    June 11, 2019

    Are you talking about the Pilcrow?

    BobLevine
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    June 11, 2019

    Nope:

    winterm
    Legend
    June 11, 2019

    Position.

    Edit: it shows if the object is rotated / flipped. Page is not touched here.

    BobLevine
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    June 11, 2019

    That might be even better. Honestly, never gave it much thought.

    winterm
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    June 11, 2019

    So did I