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What does this startup screen message mean?

Community Expert ,
Jan 25, 2019 Jan 25, 2019

OK! Let's have a little fun!

Since upgrading to CC 2019, I've been reading this bizarre message in my Startup Workspace every day when open InDesign.

"When in doubt, make a layout."

What does this mean?

Is anyone here ever in doubt when designing a layout?

Hmm! Maybe if they're a not designer. Or they've never used InDesign.

In Illustrator, at least, the message is inspirational: "Let's design great graphic today, Jeff."

Come on InDesign team. You have the best layout application in world, please rewrite this silly message.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 25, 2019 Jan 25, 2019

I don't like using the Start screen, finding it pretty useless.

So this evening after a long way from viewing it,  I checked what mine says. Tonight it's "Ready to go, Steve?"

Looks like some marketing person came up a  bunch of useless phrases as greetings.

Now I have another reason not to use the Start screen.

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Valorous Hero ,
Jan 26, 2019 Jan 26, 2019

RE: Useless Phrases

I once worked for a company I had long contracted for previously. A great bunch of people...but I had never been in the half-hour weekly company meetings as a contractor.

After a few weeks, another designer and I had made up a catch-phrase Bingo card and passed them out to 20 or so of the 54 employees for a particular weekly meeting. Yep. Someone actually hollered Bingo! during the meeting. The meetings were so full of pointless marketing phrases/words that making Bingo took minutes. (I still shudder when I read the word Synergy in company press releases.)

I haven't subscribed in quite a while so haven't seen these sayings but I always shut off Welcome screens in everything that uses them anyway. I actually know what I want to do when I start an application and would, if I used such a Welcome screen, find these sayings annoying.

I thank y'all for providing amusement for my first cup of Joe on this Saturday morning!

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Enthusiast ,
Jan 27, 2019 Jan 27, 2019

You'd probably get a kick out of the "Office Ipsum" to use as dummy text in your layouts. You can choose between "stuff clients say" and "stuff you've heard in every meeting ever." officeipsum.com is one of my favorite lorem ipsum generators.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 27, 2019 Jan 27, 2019

Sounds like fun Erica!

I'll take a look for it online.

A lot of years ago when first I switched to InDesign, I worked on a layout for a client who had not switched to InDesign at that point. He looked at my PDF comp and had only one complaint. "I don't like InDesign's fake text. Can you use Quark's Jabberwock?"

So I opened Quark 4, used Jabborwock to generate some text, copied and pasted it into Word and saved it as a .txt file, titled Placholder.txt. Then dragged it into my InDesign application folder. And as if by magic, I have Jabbor as my Placeholder text in InDesign.

Why did my client prefer Jabbor text? I found out later he was a Trekkie and one of the words in Jabbor was Klingon.

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Enthusiast ,
Jan 27, 2019 Jan 27, 2019

Here's where I go to create dummy text specific to my client...or just to amuse myself. My current placeholder text is HG Wells' Time Machine. It's been Dracula and Hamlet in the past. Sometimes I want something more cheery, though!
https://loremipsum.io/ultimate-list-of-lorem-ipsum-generators/

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Community Expert ,
Jan 27, 2019 Jan 27, 2019

Thanks Erica!

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Valorous Hero ,
Jan 27, 2019 Jan 27, 2019

Pan Ipsum also has a Klingon Ipsum generator if you ever do more with that client. And a lot more...

https://panipsum.com/

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Community Expert ,
Jan 27, 2019 Jan 27, 2019

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Jeff+Witchel%2C+ACI  wrote

Why did my client prefer Jabbor text? I found out later he was a Trekkie and one of the words in Jabbor was Klingon.

Makes sense, Jeff

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Community Expert ,
Jan 27, 2019 Jan 27, 2019

Total sense!

Weird, but a fun client.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 27, 2019 Jan 27, 2019

How about sci-fi classic lines like:

"This layout is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it, Jane."

"I'm afraid I can't do that, Jeff."

"I'm sorry Barb, I'm afraid I can't do that."

Mike Witherell
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Community Expert ,
Jan 27, 2019 Jan 27, 2019

Mike, going back to our old days, how about:

“You’re at the top of my list!”

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Community Expert ,
Jan 27, 2019 Jan 27, 2019

Hi Jane,

That's not old. I still say that.

Hmm! Wait a minute. Maybe that is old.

Jeff

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Community Expert ,
Jan 27, 2019 Jan 27, 2019

How about "Where is the [Windows] Start menu?", Mike.

~Barb

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Community Expert ,
Jan 27, 2019 Jan 27, 2019

“Press any key to get started”

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Mentor ,
Jan 29, 2019 Jan 29, 2019

jane-e  wrote

“Press any key to get started”

Enhancement by [Jongware]:

Remove keyboard, then press any key to continue

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Advocate ,
Jan 28, 2019 Jan 28, 2019

I'm also not a Start screen user, so this daily inspirational message thing is news to me. Don't you want to know whose job it is to write these pity sayings? I, for one, would love to know more about how this "feature" came about, and who is tasked with it's upkeep.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 28, 2019 Jan 28, 2019

Probably given to an intern!

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Community Expert ,
Jan 26, 2019 Jan 26, 2019

LOL. I hadn't noticed this. Thanks for the laugh.

~Barb

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Community Expert ,
Jan 26, 2019 Jan 26, 2019

My question is was this written by someone who never worked on a layout?

I hadn't even realized that there are multiple phrases that come up. I always get just this one silly statement. I think it's because InDesign knows I don't like it.

How about something useful like "I you're even thinking of calling it a layout, you're in the right place. "Or if you're designing a logo, open Illustrator instead."

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Community Expert ,
Jan 26, 2019 Jan 26, 2019

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Jeff+Witchel%2C+ACI  wrote

I hadn't even realized that there are multiple phrases that come up. I always get just this one silly statement. I think it's because InDesign knows I don't like it.

Artificial Intelligence, Jeff — scary, isn’t it?

Jane

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Community Expert ,
Feb 02, 2019 Feb 02, 2019
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jane-e  wrote

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Jeff+Witchel%2C+ACI   wrote

I hadn't even realized that there are multiple phrases that come up. I always get just this one silly statement. I think it's because InDesign knows I don't like it.

 

Artificial Intelligence, Jeff — scary, isn’t it?

Jane

Hope, never to see this:

"I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission."

Regards,
Uwe

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Community Expert ,
Jan 26, 2019 Jan 26, 2019

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Jeff+Witchel%2C+ACI  wrote

How about something useful like "I you're even thinking of calling it a layout, you're in the right place. "Or if you're designing a logo, open Illustrator instead."

Good ones, Jeff!

And in the Photoshop start screen: “Don’t even think about using Photoshop for page layout.”

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Community Expert ,
Jan 26, 2019 Jan 26, 2019

How about "Can't figure it out? Visit the forums: https://forums.adobe.com/welcome"

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Community Expert ,
Jan 26, 2019 Jan 26, 2019

Jeff, let’s have our own brainstorming contest. What message, bizarre or otherwise, would you like to see instead?

Like Barb, I hadn’t noticed it either, but I will now!

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