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Dang it.

I am sitting here using Google like crazy, but I cannot find the "output preview window" in Acrobat pro.

Help?  Sorry I'm such a moron.


In AcrobatX:  Tools>Print Production>Output Preview

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Mike_Gondek10189183
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Mike_Gondek10189183Community Expert
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August 30, 2012

The PDF displays black in Acrobat and Preview on my screen. Here are my color management settings (sorry Acrobat 8 at work but should be similar)

This link should work (removed the space in SPREA D).

http://musicfortheliturgy.org/In_Design_Questions/PRIVATE_SAMPLE_SPREAD.pdf

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ceenchaAuthor
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August 30, 2012

Since I used a black box (shape) on my master page, in order to make the page black, is there not a way I can simply "color" that box as a darker black?  This stuff is confusing me ...

Peter Spier
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Peter SpierCommunity Expert
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December 24, 2012

Peter, one problem with the posted PDF is it has CMYK, RGB, and grayscale objects, which you can see via the Show dropdown in Output Preview:

You could go into Illustrator and get everything on the CMYK black plate, but because it's a 1-color job the print operator would need to output the CMYK black plate and not convert to grayscale at print time. She probably will know to do that but it's not guaranteed—there's the risk that a print time conversion to grayscale would output 90% and not 100% black.


It's the text that's RGB (as I suggested back in August), and I'm not sure the grayscale is an issue. It shows as Non-device CMYK as well as when you select grayscale. It's clearly only on the black plate.

I think the only problem comes in if you attempt to "fix" the PDF instead of fixing the illustrations. If the type in the illustrations is converted to 0,0,0,100 there won't be any conversion to grayscale required anyplace. My recollection is that there are actual color pages in this file as well, but it's been quite a while since I looked at the document ceencha sent me earlier to diagnose a different problem. That makes conversion inside Acrobat much more complicated and prone to error.

Peter Spier
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Peter SpierCommunity Expert
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August 30, 2012

You probably have your Appearnce of Black preference set to Display All Blacks as Rich Black.

Black that is made from only 100% black ink isn't as dark as a "rich black" that also has C, M and Y inks included in the build. If you set the prefs to display blacks accurately you'll see the difference on screen in ID as well. Is you book going to be printed in color? If so, you can make that background a rich black -- ask the printer for a recommendation on the mix -- but leave your type and any linework at 100% K only.

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