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What would prevent tabular lining figures from applying?

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November 30, 2022
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Hi all,

I've got a long document that's existed for several years, with revisions each year before publishing. I'm using H&FJ's Whitney font family.

In the document's financial tables, I'm trying to apply tabular lining figures to keep everything nicely aligned. No matter what I do, they won't take. If I copy the same table into a new document, they work properly. Screenshots of the original and the new document version are below.

I've gone through the paragraph style definitions, and don't see anything that would interfere. I've opened the document from an IDML, same behavior.

This is ID 18.0, on Ventura 13.0, on an M1 MBP.

Any idea what might be going on?

Thanks!

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Correct answer jeffi13554555

Nope, tried that too.

But I did just figure out the problem. The document was a packaged file sent from a contractor, complete with the Document Fonts folder. And while I'm running Whitney Pro, apparently they weren't. So the packaged fonts overrode my locally installed ones. Off to have them buy a new copy of Whitney Pro...

Mike Witherell

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Mike Witherell

jeffi13554555Author

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Yup.

Mike Witherell

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Ah there is a clue. Might be just the one document. Try washing the .indd file out to .idml and re-open that xml version as a fresh .indd file. Then, observe if the problem persists? Really, now I am out of guesses!

Mike Witherell

jeffi13554555AuthorCorrect answer

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Nope, tried that too.

But I did just figure out the problem. The document was a packaged file sent from a contractor, complete with the Document Fonts folder. And while I'm running Whitney Pro, apparently they weren't. So the packaged fonts overrode my locally installed ones. Off to have them buy a new copy of Whitney Pro...

Mike Witherell

Community Expert

I am out of guesses, but just to be sure, you have only Whitney Pro installed; not Whitney.

Also, the paragraph style should not define it; only the character style.

Lastly, there should be no + sign overrides on the paragraph style counter-arguing the look of the text.

Outside of that, you stumped me. That means you owe me a cold snack after work! 😀

Mike Witherell

jeffi13554555Author

Inspiring

I'll owe you two if a solution comes to mind!

Mike Witherell

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My testing indicates that Whitney does not contain alternate number forms. Some fonts do; some don't. Apparently you get them with Whitney Pro.

Mike Witherell

jeffi13554555Author

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It definitely does -- take a look at the second screen shot above. Whitney has a complete set of standard, old-style, and tabular figures. I wish it was that dumb of a problem. 😉

jeffi13554555Author

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And sorry, forgot to mention, I am using Whitney Pro.

Mike Witherell

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Are you using an applied Character Style to handle the tabular numbers?

Mike Witherell

jeffi13554555Author

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Paragraph style. But I tried a character style just now containing nothing but Tabular Lining, and it also had no effect.

jeffi13554555Author

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It definitely does -- take a look at the second screen shot above. Whitney has a complete set of standard, old-style, and tabular figures. I wish it was that dumb of a problem. 😉

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