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Richard38213849xt3l
Inspiring
July 12, 2024
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When I import a new RTF into Indesign my custom workspace won't work

  • July 12, 2024
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I am trying to convert an RTF file into a reflowable ePub using InDesign.  I had formerly created a new ePub following Anne-Marie Concepcion's video tutorials and in that new file of mine I set a new Workspace, names it, and populated it with new paragraph and chracter styles and so on.  The workspace works beuatifully in that file.  But when I created a "new document" in Indesign, it has the name of my customized workspace (the one that I customized in the other file) at the very top of the workspace just as I expect to, as if it is working, but when I open the panels for paragraphs and characterstyles, it is as if I have never created a workspace at all.  It only shows blank_paragraphs as an option.  Can someone help, ...please?

 

Thanks,  Rick Reiman

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Correct answer Richard38213849xt3l

On re-reading the OP, I think you're exactly right.

 

@Richard38213849xt3l, you are confusing setup of the application and UI with the setup of each document. They have (almost) nothing to do with each other. Styles and other document-related things are stored only in each document (with a sort of complicated exception we'll ignore). When you set up all the styles etc. for a document, they are saved in that document and completely "leave the building" when you close it. Opening a new document will present you with the very basic few styles that are integral to new documents, not any you created for another doc.

 

You can create documents and save them as templates, so that you open that template and have a new document with a starting layout, styles, settings etc. but that 's a very specific separate workflow and process, not the way things work for opening a new, blank doc.

 

I think you might be seeing ID in the way Word and other apps work, where styles and changes to styles are saved in a common template/file, so that each new document has access to those styles. With the exception of a few sophisticated processes, ID doesn't work that way. And none of this has anything to do with UI workspaces at all.

 

If you want to create a new document modeled on your prior EPUB source, open that document, delete everything that's specific to it (most content, I would assume, and any special/one-shot styles. Tidy it up, add any common new styles or starting content you want... and save it as an InDesign template. (Option in the Save-As menu; it will create an INDT file.)

 

Close it, then open that template file, and you will have a new, unsaved document containing exactly the styles and starting content you set.


Thanks very much! I called Adobe in my perplexity, and they said each of the points you say here. They showed me how to remove all pages but one from the original file where I created the styles and workplace, save it as a template, and use it for future new files.  I completely misread the nature of workspaces, which have a lot less utility and heft than I supposed. Now I get it! And templates will have the same utility for me that I believed workspaces would have, just a different workflow. Thanks for your help!
 
 

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James Gifford—NitroPress
Legend
July 12, 2024

I can't see this as being EPUB related at all.

 

Hazarding a guess, you need to set your custom workspace while no document is open, and it should then persist across docs. (It is not a doc-specific setting.)

 

There have been reported glitches about this, though, and resetting your ID preferences might straighten things out. Do a quick search to find the method for your version and platform.

Richard38213849xt3l
Inspiring
July 12, 2024

Thank you, sir. I will try these steps and see if they work!

 

Rick

James Gifford—NitroPress
Legend
July 12, 2024

Mr. Gifford,

This is also helpful but no solution yet. I had just come to the conclusions that it was a "preferences" issue, but I was still stuck on the idea that it was a menu problem.  I have the latest version of ID-- I will see how to clear out its' cache.  I also wonder why my preferential "workspace" is stuck as the default? I must have selected it to stay there, which is fine, but it seems to make no difference as it does not work with any new files. (I thought if I switched to another default workspace, I could switch back and it would work, but that didn't work either).  I will try more of those preference options in your link to the preferences.  Thanks,


Rick


If I wasn't clear, the gliltches and odd behavior caused by corrupted preferences can be maddeningly erratic and unpredictable; it's often not a matter of something obvious being wrong, just a whac-a-mole game of features and menus and settings not working right. So don't look too hard at any one element of this, such as your custom workspace or why it plays hide and seek or won't persist. It's not a rational thing. 🙂